I understand your frustration overkillcoin, and I agree that it is ridiculous to bring this up at such a late stage.
However, as far as I’m concerned, consensus was already given on the voice and that hasn’t changed due to one or two posts. The time for making that decision has passed. I hope you can continue working on the project.
How many times you listened narrated-only soundtrack? It’s obvious that you’re searching for sound effects.
@river333 +1
[quote=“river333, post:461, topic:2095”]I understand your frustration overkillcoin, and I agree that it is ridiculous to bring this up at such a late stage.
However, as far as I’m concerned, consensus was already given on the voice and that hasn’t changed due to one or two posts. The time for making that decision has passed. I hope you can continue working on the project.[/quote]
I’ll gladly continue. I have a lot more time to animate as well. ;D
@ppcman
I agree with Mr Overkillcoin and river333. We can’t work effectively if the discussion team doesn’t commit to creative ideas (not just us to, but the subtitles teams like cybnate and sandakersmann) and at such a later stage in the project, it undermines hours and hours of work (careful timing decisions syncing and mixing on my end alone, and much more on others people’s end).
Tweaks and small changes are fine (Frankly I expect them), but this is a HUGE change you’re suggesting and what I’m concerned is based on your previous record that you’ll continue to suggest these changes even after you’ve “committed” to them. It’s unfair to the creative team to keep asking redos, and if as you really want such a big change and think “All it takes is money, patience and talent”, then you should consider expanding the funding on the animation to take into account the time.
@kac-
Excellent points there. Thumbs up to that!
The danger with running projects this way is they can get stuck in a loop of infinite iterations. A final product never gets produced. When a project team discovers something objectively wrong then of course it must get fixed. But subjective criticisms have to be understood as just that. It’s simply not possible to make everybody perfectly happy. The PPC community has entrusted these guys to do the best they can with the budget, resources, and time available. They are professionals and presumably know what they are doing, otherwise we would not have solicited their services in the first place.
There is a Peercoin conference presentation available that could be turned into a low tech video with a female voice providing narration.
I think the voice is good, doesn’t need to be changed, however, to give some constructive criticism, aren’t the sound effects a bit soft? Could be just me, but I barely could hear them, maybe this is why ppcman wanted to block out the voiceover, because ppcman wanted to listen to the sound effects, but it was really low volume, and the narrator was talking through it. Could be my speaker setup, just my opinion.
@sportscliche
True dat
@irritant
Fair point, Sir. I was going to compare it with the Bitcoin vid once the rest of the sound effects (and the music) was done so I can get a better idea on the mix with everything there, but yeah, I agree that the vocals probably need a turn down a tad. It’s an easy fix :3 the video there was mostly to demonstrate the sounds and how it syncs to the video, but there’s some more polishing yet to be done 
@Overkillcoin and Jabun
Please continue with the video as planned. The work you are doing is great. The voice was already accepted by the community, so there is no way back. The video will be a huge improvement over the existing peercoin video.
A video with a sexy woman’s voice to attract the masses will only be needed once peercoin is running on Smartphones and Iphones and has a button for cold-locked minting, and once we have upgraded to the improved reward scheme that Sunny recently announced, which benefits small investors. And once peershares is up and running of course.
Peershares is only briefly mentioned in the video, so if Peershares is successful, an additional presentation video will be needed anyway.
I am just a very small investor in Peercoin, but this discussion here really made me login and say my opinion.
Thanks!
Look here:
I just wanted to say that my previous post about the voice (Which I deleted), wasn’t because I was agreeing with ppcman about the voice. I was only giving out a suggestion in case it needed to be changed for some reason. Please continue on! 
i have been messing around today with some vocal recording and here is what turned out:
AN PVv1 (EDIT) is a more freestyle version
AN PVv2 (EDIT) follows the current vocal more closely timewise
the main reason i am posting is because it was mentioned that a female vocal may be useful in the future and i wanted people’s opinions. i do think the current vocal for overkillcoin’s video is better for various reasons.
@overkillcoin
i hope you don’t mind me putting these examples up. i really like how the video is shaping up, appreciate the hard work you are putting in and and am glad you are still continuing with it…
@Jabun
really liking the sound effects - they don’t really come out strong on my laptop speakers but sound great in headphones. the only effect i would change is the one for peercoin being ‘innovative and unique’. i wondered if a more angel choir/halo ‘aaaah’ type effect might work?
[quote=“river333, post:461, topic:2095”]I understand your frustration overkillcoin, and I agree that it is ridiculous to bring this up at such a late stage.
However, as far as I’m concerned, consensus was already given on the voice and that hasn’t changed due to one or two posts. The time for making that decision has passed. I hope you can continue working on the project.[/quote]
Thanks River333. Agree, please continue as agreed Jabun and Overkillcoin.
I think PPCman’s concern was primarily about the mixing and the voice being to much in the foreground and then he went off on a tangent in an effort to provide a solution. Jabun already said he would look into the mixing issue and I agree that some work is required in that space. I’ve seen a few NXT and other videos which have a good balance between sound effects and voice-over, so I’m sure it can be done and trust you to work it out. Maybe the sound effect needs to be synchronised on loudness first as some are louder than others in my opinion, but it might be my low-grade computer speakers.
@rootsical, very nice demo and effort. It is good to compare, but agree that this doesn’t work that well for this video.
Is it a real human voice or did you manipulate/mixed your own voice?
Hi Peer Friends,
More animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEIto0bHBiM&feature=youtu.be
Changes to make:
Tone down the lime green (seen in verify/secure in the network scene)
Make the ( / ) smaller in the data center scene
0:25 - change iPhone position (a bit) for aesthetics
0:26 Unfade the network after the computers disappear
The data center:
I attempted to render this with camera depth of field, but the combination of hundreds and hundreds of surfaces and the tendency for afterEffects to have limited rendering power for wide areas, it didn’t seem worth it. I can possibly fake the effect with trickery. Even without the d.o.f., it was taking 30 seconds to render each frame.
Have a nice day :))
@r00tsical
I can look into that choir sound effect for you. It’s pretty simple to make It was the one just after the flag gets put in the ground right (With all the shining and stuff)? Let me know
@Cybnate
Some effects I think should be naturally quieter than others, but yeah, as I’ve said before, I’ve still work to do there. It’s difficult to get all the levels right without everything being there first, so I’ve been focusing on the creation and syncing of the sound effects until I’ve got all the audio.
Thanks for all the support guys. It’s great that people like the work we’ve been doing :3 Also very motivational XD
Schweet! Update That’s the beginning of my week sorted! XD
Out of interest, how often would people want updates from my end? Every time a new section of animation is done, or fewer? I can put another update out once all the sound effects are done if you want, before I start on the music, then another one once the music is done + mastering. We can discus from there any changes, then once all the taste tweaks are ironed out in the audio, send it to OKC to print to good quality video?
@r00tsical
I had a play with that choir sound effect (Also I’ve turned the vocals down a bit more). Is this the sort of thing you wanted?
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/i070w4ogs64k4q1/PeerCoinAdvertChoirSFX.wav
@Jabun
nice one for giving it a go… yeah it’s the second sound in your clip that i am on about. it’s still not really what i had in mind, i was thinking like a cross between these two:
angel sfx
tada sfx
perhaps the angelness from the 1st (just the choir, not weird lower vocal), but the compactness from the 2nd. i like the artificialness of your one though. perhaps just making it higher frequency would do the trick? very difficult to describe and i know you like a challenge but please don’t worry too much about it!
@r00tsical
No worries. I don’t want to take too much time on it though (plenty of other effects to make :D). I added an extra note to the top and it sounds a lot more like the angel sfx now (without the strange low vocal), just a little less quivery:
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ik419hquu35u709/PeerCoinAdvertChoirSFX2.wav
Sound any better?
Not really sure how to cross it with the tada, but if you want, I can try layering a similar tada brass sound over the top? Probably best to keep it as simple as possible though (It might be a one-or-the-other sort of thing rather than having both). I agree, it’s difficult to describe these things without just showing someone exactly what you want, but if you could then you’d already have the thing you wanted ;D Heheh I do enjoy a challenge!
@r00tsical
Schweeet! +1 Happy customer XD