there is no peercoin foundation for good reason, lets keep it that way
Peercoin doesn’t have a foundation, but it has an excellent proven developement platform, as you may know, http://peer4commit.com.
Peer4commit allows donators, project architects/fundraisors/managers, and developers/contributors to come together in development projects, and rewards developers/contributors in a transparent way. The platform encourage self-organize by separating the three roles. It relies on github to do the accounting of work delivered so peer4commit is highly efficient when the deliverables are open source file-based. For hardware development this platform isn’t ideal.
A project running on Peer4commit doesn’t have to be about peercoin system itself. Peer4commit uses peercoin to pay the developers so peercoin gets used, which is excellent. If Tesla use peer4commit to fund projects useful to Tesla it might be a first for a prominent brick and mortar company to reward contribution with a cryptocurrency. This fits well into the popular trend of online tipping/reward, and would be a boost to peercoin, a green cryptocurrency.
[quote=“Alloy, post:56, topic:3530”]Do you want to see Tesla invest in the Peercoin Foundation/Platform?
If so, who would you like to see facilitate with?
At what level would you like to see Tesla’s engagement withing the Peercoin Community?
If you could pick an ideal time for this to happen, when would you like to see it materialize?
With regard to the official announcement, when would you like to see this happen?
And last but not least… how would you like to see the future partnership between Tesla and Peercoin evolve for the better of the community?[/quote]
I’m sorry, but this doesn’t pass the “smell test” for me. Tesla is a large, competent company. I think it would never ask a relatively tiny community, “When would you like to see the official announcement?” It is like an elephant asking a spider where it should step next. It doesn’t make sense to me.
I would caution the community to take all unproven claims with a grain of salt.
If my instinct is correct, this will never happen. :-/
[quote=“Chronos, post:63, topic:3530”][quote=“Alloy, post:56, topic:3530”]Do you want to see Tesla invest in the Peercoin Foundation/Platform?
If so, who would you like to see facilitate with?
At what level would you like to see Tesla’s engagement withing the Peercoin Community?
If you could pick an ideal time for this to happen, when would you like to see it materialize?
With regard to the official announcement, when would you like to see this happen?
And last but not least… how would you like to see the future partnership between Tesla and Peercoin evolve for the better of the community?[/quote]
I’m sorry, but this doesn’t pass the “smell test” for me. Tesla is a large, competent company. I think it would never ask a relatively tiny community, “When would you like to see the official announcement?” It is like an elephant asking a spider where it should step next. It doesn’t make sense to me.
I would caution the community to take all unproven claims with a grain of salt.
If my instinct is correct, this will never happen. :-/[/quote]
Chronos,
You speak as if I’m representing Tesla. Please let me make it clear: I/we do not represent Tesla.
Thank you,
Alloy
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Hm, let’s clear up some of my confusions here.
While a project, even remotely connected to Tesla, would be great news, I’m not sure that it is a big thing for Tesla. Anyone who have worked for a big tech company, knows that there is so much R&D going on, people in all kinds of projects investigating all kinds of technologies and while this research can lead to great things, it’s not as a company would “put its weight behind it” until a much later phase.
When [member=28547]Alloy[/member] talked about an official announcement I was thinking that it had something to do with alloys company working on a project with Tesla, rather then that Tesla was about to “come out with big news”. So rather an official announcement on the part of alloy and not Tesla.
Maybe I’m wrong?
If my instinct is correct, this will never happen. :-/[/quote]
I’m willing to bet 100 peercoins that you will be proven wrong. Let’s say you are right if they don’t communicate this through a official channel within five years. Are you willing to take that bet?
EDIT: The idea here is that I buy 100 coins now at a very low cost. Should Tesla tell us about it, price will for sure go up. So I loose very little it they don’t, but win a whole lot if they do.
pillow is correct.
Thank you
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c’mon 5 years, we will all dead by then! 
let’s make it 1 month from now. july the 8th 2015 the deadline. if no news whatsoever comes out regarding tesla having anything to do with PPC I win, on the contrary you win. 100 peercoins. deal?
c’mon 5 years, we will all dead by then!
let’s make it 1 month from now. july the 8th 2015 the deadline. if no news whatsoever comes out regarding tesla having anything to do with PPC I win, on the contrary you win. 100 peercoins. deal?[/quote]
Reducing the time frame from 60 months to only 1 month should make this a leveraged bet, don’t you think?
What about you owe @pillow 100 PPC if there’s news about Peercoin on an official Tesla channel in the next 30 days and @pillow owes you 3 PPC if there’s no news?
I don’t think that the reduction of the time frame can be translated 1:1 to the leverage of the bet.
If @pillow doesn’t want to take that bet, I do 
so basically 33:1 bet. I’d go 2:1, I give 100 vs 50, and as deadline the end of July.
I was going to say something about what separates an investor and a gambler :)) but let me say - don’t derail the thread.
According to Sentinel, Alloy has been around some time, and so has a reputation, so I think Alloy should be given the benefit of the doubt
That said, Sentinel is right not to raise expectations in other social media, as even the best plans can fall through
Can Alloy give any sort of timeframe, and is his team/business partners a formal company with a website, or is it a collaboration between individuals?
[quote=“RobertLloyd, post:71, topic:3530”]According to Sentinel, Alloy has been around some time, and so has a reputation, so I think Alloy should be given the benefit of the doubt
That said, Sentinel is right not to raise expectations in other social media, as even the best plans can fall through
Can Alloy give any sort of timeframe, and is his team/business partners a formal company with a website, or is it a collaboration between individuals?[/quote]
+1 i too would like to see some sort of timeline/plan, talk is cheap action is not
I misunderstood this thread, and was too harsh. Please accept my apologies.
Sorry, Pillow, but I’m not willing to take this bet. :))
The energy-efficient ideal which Peercoin is designed around is highly aligned with the environment-conscious social trend at large. Tesla is successful partly because similar alignment. So it is not surprising that Peercoin is found cenceptually compatible with other products and services of similar ideal. The Tesla deal may well fall through, the fact that it was considered shows the promising possibilities.
Sorry it took a while for me to come up with something coherent.
Do you want to see Tesla invest in the Peercoin Foundation/Platform?
A platform of some kind, like peer4commit, yes. A foundation body can be considered only if it remains a third party entity that doesn’t introduce systemic single point of failure (Peercoin core devs, peercoin users being the first two parties).
If so, who would you like to see facilitate with?
I don’t quite understand “facilitate with”.
At what level would you like to see Tesla's engagement withing the Peercoin Community?
I’d like to see the engagement to be multi-leveled but inter-connected. There are product focused tasks to get the community involved, and there are pilot programs, basic research and development on peercoin infrastructure, and PR activities. The engagement can be one many levels in many directions.
If you could pick an ideal time for this to happen, when would you like to see it materialize?
I would like to see new things happening constantly, instead of a big bang and subsequent withdrawal syndrome.
With regard to the official announcement, when would you like to see this happen?
Soon, starting small, but promising growing space. The Peercoin community like things that grow steadily. We take long views.
And last but not least... how would you like to see the future partnership between Tesla and Peercoin evolve for the better of the community?
Share dreams. Tesla makes cars. Peercoin is a blockchain network. They have different development goals. I would like to see partnership with Tesla helps attract new blood to the community (devs, economists, PR specialists). I hope at some point Peercoin as an efficient distributed transaction ledger is not too strange to someone at Tesla who founded an online payment system (PayPal) and is fond of energy efficiency.
At the risk of looking too far beyond, but if you think putting a peerbox in everycharge station and car is rad, how about putting a peercoin node in every SolarCity home and on one of the SpaceX cargo ships to the International Space Station? Or even on the moon or Mars?
whatever. tell your friends at tesla that I’m ready to buy one of their cars as soon as I see ppc at 5$+ again.
[quote=“mhps, post:75, topic:3530”]Share dreams. Tesla makes cars. Peercoin is a blockchain network. They have different development goals. I would like to see partnership with Tesla helps attract new blood to the community (devs, economists, PR specialists). I hope at some point Peercoin as an efficient distributed transaction ledger is not too strange to someone at Tesla who founded an online payment system (PayPal) and is fond of energy efficiency.
At the risk of looking too far beyond, but if you think putting a peerbox in everycharge station and car is rad, how about putting a peercoin node in every SolarCity home and on one of the SpaceX cargo ships to the International Space Station? Or even on the moon or Mars?[/quote]
Good points.
One more source: https://www.ted.com/talks/elon_musk_the_mind_behind_tesla_spacex_solarcity?language=en
lightbulbs that mine bitcoin, can we haz solar panels that mint peercoin?
market action keeps saying total BS to this rumor. to be honest, and as I said from the beginning, it looks like this whole thing was made up in order to allow some big bagholder to dump their ppc.
Still the way I feel personaly too. Time will tell. I wish to be wrong.