Major evolution for Peer4commit

[quote=“seki, post:40, topic:2321”]I got a flash. The phrase “They can distribute funds to email addresses…” makes me think:
what if we can send coins directly from a wallet to an email address,a mobile phone (sms) ,a twitter,fb, or any other
mean of communication?
and the reverse ofcourse!
crazy? >:D[/quote]

you know http://old.coinapult.com/? they dont support altcoins as of yet, there is some announcement of an announcement on their frontpage tho: https://coinapult.com/

Can’t wait to use this for Peershares and Peerunity! Paying to email addresses will be very useful for paying contributors who have no need to make a pull request.

Actually he updated his post saying

The deadline of 17th of june still stands, but we do not require a finished product.

So bitcoin support may not be critical. We can fully support peercoin and say bitcoin support will be added if we win the bounty.
What do you think? Should we support bitcoin anyway?

Also, we have competitors with a good marketing video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETCP8NeXasY

Re Bitcoin support. Tricky one. Leaving it Peercoin only increases the demand for the coin and might generate a healthy flow. Trouble if people donate Bitcoins then we need to exchange them or pay with Bitcoins. So for the Peercoin community benefit I wouldn’t add Bitcoin support, only if required for competition, which can be done later after selection process apparently.

Did you mention a voting system? The competition video mentions that they have one, it would be great to have a blockchain based voting mechanism in Peer4commit. So maybe focus on that?

The video is pretty basic but good storyline, they probably hired a professional full-time to deliver something fast. Maybe you can get some artwork done to use in the GUI to give it a bit of pro touch?

Another crazy idea :stuck_out_tongue:
If we can take advantage of storj-maidsafe tachnology (when available)
in order to setup decentralized full ppc minting nodes!
I dont have a clue how and if this is plausable :-\

I was going to have my designer make up a text logo for Peer4commit with the leaf in the i, to make it consistent with our other logos, but Sigmike thought the competition host might not like it, so I decided to hold off to see if we win first. If we did use it, it would go in the upper left corner of the website and replace the current Peer4commit text.

I was going to have my designer make up a text logo for Peer4commit with the leaf in the i, to make it consistent with our other logos, but Sigmike thought the competition host might not like it, so I decided to hold off to see if we win first. If we did use it, it would go in the upper left corner of the website and replace the current Peer4commit text.[/quote]
Well matter of taste I guess regarding logo. I think it would be nice, but I don’t know the guy and Sigmike might be right.

But honestly I was more thinking of some graphics to use as in pictograms instead of or including using tabs with text as Home, Supported Projects etc. Indication of project status, funding level indicators etc. maybe even graphics from statistics like number of donations in time, activity of project etc.

I think voting is already present through funding. If you want a particular project to reach its goal you vote for it by sending funds.

For example there may be a project to hire the lobbyist X and another one to hire Y. You vote by sending funds to the project you like most. The fundraisers should explain what they’re going to to with the funds in the different outcomes. For example if a target amount is not reached then the funds will be returned to the supporters, or sent to another lobbyist who received more funds.

A voting system could help the fundraiser in some situations. For example you may want to create a project to hire a lobbyist and let the supporters decide which one.

But there are many ways to organize a vote. It should ultimately be up to the fundraiser to decide what kind of voting system he wants to use. So it may be better as an external system.

But we need a way to identify donors anyway. To do that we can ask for an address before they send funds. This address would be used for voting and refund.
I think I’ll implement that, at least for refund. I’ll also add a list of all sponsor addresses and the amount they donated, so that fundraisers have the minimum material to start a vote.

Maybe you can get some artwork done to use in the GUI to give it a bit of pro touch?

We may be too short on delay and funds to make a new design.

A quick mockup for the new donation: https://moqups.com/ouvrages/WzEk6ZNx/p:a2a905466
I first thought it would be optional, but it may be better mandatory.

will it be possible to track progress of projects? with some status bar from 0 to 100% complete

[quote=“sigmike, post:49, topic:2321”]A quick mockup for the new donation: https://moqups.com/ouvrages/WzEk6ZNx/p:a2a905466
I first thought it would be optional, but it may be better mandatory.[/quote]

sigmike, I was going to add a comment on the mockup, but it looks like I’m not authorized. Here’s a marked up version of the screen mockup with my comments. This may be too detailed at this point, but hopefully you’ll find the feedback useful.

Yes we can add a “Target” field on the project form and display a status bar if the fundraiser filled it. Note that some project may not have a defined target.
And what happens when the fundraiser starts sending funds? Does the status bar decrease?

It looks like I can’t activate public comments, I’d have to share the project.

Yes, thank you. Can you provide a text version so that I can copy/paste it?

Sure. I worked on it a little longer and tried to fix the last sentence so that it didn’t use the phrase “this address” again:

To donate to this project you must provide a return address. This address will be used if Peer4Commit or the fundraiser ever need to send funds back to you. In the future, this address may also be used to cast a vote. For a vote to be valid, it will need to be signed by the address that the donation was sent from.

[quote=“sigmike, post:49, topic:2321”]A quick mockup for the new donation: https://moqups.com/ouvrages/WzEk6ZNx/p:a2a905466
I first thought it would be optional, but it may be better mandatory.[/quote]

The return address would discourage me if I have some money to through at Foo project and don’t ever want to be bothered again. If you worry about legal liabilities that non-returnable fund could bring, it’s better to say it explicitely, something like "In case your donation must be returned, a non-existent or invalid returned adress will result in your donation being sent to http://www.bitcoin-charity.com/ (or whatever). Well maybe a lawyer should be consulted re liability issues with public funds.

Ok, I’ll keep it optional. I think if you don’t give a return address then the funds won’t be returned and the fundraiser will do whatever he thinks is best with the funds (you trusted him by sending the funds). If Peer4commit has to return the funds then yes, charity could be an option.

Note that peer4commit won’t have control on the funds once the multisignature system is implemented.

That is important. I think it is a good idea to put that on the donation page or somewhere the donator won’t miss. If there are too many fine prints to put on one page, put in a link pointing to a disclaimer or FAQ page.

[quote=“sigmike, post:48, topic:2321”]

Maybe you can get some artwork done to use in the GUI to give it a bit of pro touch?

We may be too short on delay and funds to make a new design.[/quote]

Actually I found a designer who was able to make a quick design and I spent some time integrating it: http://testnet.peer4commit.com/

I’ll now work on an updated FAQ page that will be the basis of the submission.

[quote=“sigmike, post:58, topic:2321”][quote=“sigmike, post:48, topic:2321”]

Maybe you can get some artwork done to use in the GUI to give it a bit of pro touch?

We may be too short on delay and funds to make a new design.[/quote]

Actually I found a designer who was able to make a quick design and I spent some time integrating it: http://testnet.peer4commit.com/

I’ll now work on an updated FAQ page that will be the basis of the submission.[/quote]
Wow, now that makes a difference. I love it :-*

I was just thinking about the increasing number of projects. Is it possible/feasible to add a filter to the list of projects?
E.g. by creation date, activity (number of commits/contributions), donation value (default), project name or project maintainer?