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Between 01-Jan-18 12:00 AM and 01-Jan-20 12:00 AM
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saeveritt 11-Jan-18 04:08 PM
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captainbuckkets 06-Apr-18 07:04 PM
that press play tho @saeveritt
hard to be a god
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saeveritt 06-Apr-18 08:25 PM
😘
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captainbuckkets 07-Apr-18 04:12 AM
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saeveritt 07-Apr-18 11:39 AM
My indicator just threw some green plus signs -- signaling a new trend forming.
peercoin 3
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saeveritt 19-Apr-18 06:05 PM
current state: up around 20% https://www.tradingview.com/x/hMSQZAhd/(edited)
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BrotherJ 19-Apr-18 09:02 PM
Looking Good
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ragnarok 26-Apr-18 07:28 PM
ppc on a real nice ascending trendline the past 18 days https://www.tradingview.com/x/Gsw7jREp/
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captainbuckkets 08-May-18 08:11 PM
LazyBear Custom Indicators for TradingView Keep scrolling, there are more than 6 pages of indicators listed :) If you use any of these indicators regularly, appreciate a small donation :) My Bitcoin address is : 1Cs5DJ7DGqYVBWaAt5rPuRc...
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NSL(HF)Never Stop Learning 10-May-18 10:31 PM
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ragnarok 20-May-18 01:42 PM
ppc/btc at the apex of this beautiful symmetrical triangle. I've got a feeling it's going to be a good year for ppc. https://www.tradingview.com/x/rvuWSSba/
peercoin 3
and still holding strong to that ascending trendline for 45 days straight now
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ragnarok 29-May-18 02:13 PM
on the 1 day candles PPC/BTC is forming a massive symmetrical triangle. Being that we're reaching higher lows I feel like it has a high chance of breaking upwards
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captainbuckkets 13-Jun-18 02:30 PM
🤔
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CryptoCarlJung 13-Jun-18 07:30 PM
Hows everybody holding up in the market?(edited)
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EpistemiCrisis 14-Jun-18 05:50 PM
👎
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captainbuckkets 14-Jun-18 08:10 PM
Still being respectful of the fib levels
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captainbuckkets 19-Jun-18 06:36 PM
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captainbuckkets 22-Jun-18 09:07 AM
moving into a proper uptrend slowly
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Peter 22-Jun-18 09:27 AM
Bart formation?
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captainbuckkets 22-Jun-18 09:40 AM
Consolidation
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necro 22-Jun-18 04:23 PM
you gotta be rly delusional to see consolidation
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EpistemiCrisis 22-Jun-18 07:31 PM
you don't see all the moving averages converging?
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Peter 23-Jun-18 12:01 PM
Yea it's not a consolidation, but ppc is stronger than any other coin. But it cant help to not get dumped
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igotoschoolonfoot 27-Jun-18 12:00 AM
??
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Jwil 28-Jun-18 06:39 PM
ppc @ 1.40
thanks dad
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peerchemist 29-Jun-18 12:20 PM
np
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Peter 29-Jun-18 05:56 PM
Next thing will be when PPC will be added to cereals 😄
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Peter 29-Jun-18 06:07 PM
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Sentinelrv 29-Jun-18 10:11 PM
It would be nice to be added as a new lucky charm.
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EpistemiCrisis 29-Jun-18 11:48 PM
Silly newbie, PPC is for chads
perfect slogan
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Peter 03-Jul-18 01:59 PM
Lul
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Peter 14-Jul-18 04:29 PM
Well PPC isnt on binance
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pistdov 14-Jul-18 04:30 PM
yes is deleted
idk why
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HappyIguana 15-Jul-18 12:41 PM
@pistdov You were just banned from Siacoin Discord for attempting this same scam. Hope the mods here delete you quickly
@pistdov If you follow your same methods, your response to me will be vulgar.
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captainbuckkets 15-Jul-18 01:32 PM
Will do @HappyIguana thanks
Been afk so I haven't been able to watch as much without service
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ak 15-Jul-18 05:10 PM
Does PPC have anything to do with XPM?
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Peter 15-Jul-18 06:33 PM
Founder
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ak 18-Jul-18 12:06 AM
Thanks 👍👍
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Deleted User 01-Aug-18 09:37 PM
new to peercoin....i read somewhere about upcoming fork?
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captainbuckkets 02-Aug-18 02:30 AM
In reference to what fork?
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Peter 02-Aug-18 05:08 AM
Such fork I guess
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EpistemiCrisis 02-Aug-18 12:46 PM
Upcoming merge fork of bitcoin and ppc
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captainbuckkets 02-Aug-18 02:05 PM
Oh this is still occuring
Im not participating until they fix the issue with coin age where I would lose mine to recieve an airdrop
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EpistemiCrisis 02-Aug-18 02:36 PM
You would lose the PPC if you participated in the fork? outrageous
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captainbuckkets 02-Aug-18 02:37 PM
You would lose your coinage for the staking processs
coin-age = how eligable your coins are for staking
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EpistemiCrisis 02-Aug-18 02:39 PM
ah!
I'm not super familiar with PPC's staking process
is that similar to weight?
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captainbuckkets 02-Aug-18 02:46 PM
2nd paragraph
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peerchemist 02-Aug-18 03:09 PM
time is the resource you stake in the process
you need to hold the coins in one place to accumulate time
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EpistemiCrisis 02-Aug-18 06:28 PM
I see, really interesting concept
I like that a lot better than the staking model where weight builds up as you're NOT staking
then you just open the wallet for a couple days and get your rewards
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peerchemist 03-Aug-18 06:50 AM
where did you see that?
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EpistemiCrisis 03-Aug-18 09:13 AM
let's see, I've seen that model on MMOcoin and reddcoin are two that I know about
coin age multiplies the weight as it sits in the wallet, coin age resets once you receive staking rewards, so there's no incentive to leave the wallet always staking
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peerchemist 03-Aug-18 09:20 AM
that's a weird model, probably inherited from Novacoin
there are no inscentives to leave the wallet staking 0-24 with peercoin either
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EpistemiCrisis 03-Aug-18 09:30 AM
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peerchemist 03-Aug-18 10:07 AM
heard about it, but dont have a clue what it does
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peerchemist 08-Aug-18 11:30 AM
Are you aware that #peercoin trading is still at 0% fee on @TheRockTrading for a while? #ppc was the first proof-of-stake coin
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kleon 12-Aug-18 02:34 AM
Is everyone expecting PPC to start making a recovery around here? Or are we heading for a lower low on the daily chart
Nearly wicked up to 20k sats couple hours ago
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captainbuckkets 12-Aug-18 12:38 PM
Waiting on WEX still
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babagoose 12-Aug-18 09:59 PM
Did wex list ppc without permission?
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captainbuckkets 12-Aug-18 10:28 PM
@babagoose PPC is such an old coin it's like listing BTC
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peerchemist 13-Aug-18 06:29 AM
@babagoose in the past nobody would ask you about listing, it was more natural than today. Wex listed Ppc in 2013(edited)
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peerchemist 13-Aug-18 04:35 PM
coinmarketcap reports $914,182 USD volume on Peercoin today
nice
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Peter 14-Aug-18 05:59 PM
Cause people actually care more about coins, then stupid p'n'd (apart from that btc-e/wex were perpetuating their p'n'ds frequently)
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backpacker 31-Aug-18 08:43 AM
we need more people on RUDEX, c'mon
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captainbuckkets 06-Sep-18 12:51 PM
some of you guys read charts like Floyd Mayweather reads children's stories
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captainbuckkets 06-Oct-18 06:36 PM
!exchanges
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Peer6 BOT 06-Oct-18 06:36 PM
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 02:57 PM
Anybody do actual trading on here?
Decent trades lining up
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peerchemist 08-Oct-18 03:11 PM
did well on brazilian stocks today
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 03:15 PM
Never even considered Brazilian stocks, but that makes sense with Bolsonaro
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peerchemist 08-Oct-18 03:19 PM
PBR (oil) +10% today and AZUL (transport) +16% today
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 03:22 PM
Having a hard time wanting to trade anything but crypto since normie stocks in the US have trading rate limits and you can only trade twice a day max per week or something stupid.
Anything interesting chart wise to watch?
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peerchemist 08-Oct-18 03:24 PM
you can watch the death of AMZN bubble
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 03:28 PM
I said something a couple weeks ago when it had the bear div on the weekly. Whales exited in April
Atleast the last major visible sum
Volume never returned
https://www.tradingview.com/x/i25tJReA/ Wont be long on BTC anyway
Volitility is almost fat 0(edited)
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Delvin 08-Oct-18 03:34 PM
Can you explain this indicator @captainbuckkets
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 03:34 PM
What about it
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Delvin 08-Oct-18 03:37 PM
First off what is it called?
2nd what does the yellow and blue grid/mesh represent?
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 03:40 PM
Fishnets for now. This is in-house indicator work. For simplicity's sake, each color represents a variety of beliefs about price. Blue is longer term belief, while yellow is shorter term. When they converge, explosive price action occurs since buyers and sellers cannot be in equilibrium about price belief for many reasons (information access, valuation, etc). Gives easy turning points and information about trend strength. On these, bitcoin is just floored as shit(edited)
Its going sideways and the nets are starting to unfurl albeit slowly(edited)
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peerchemist 08-Oct-18 03:44 PM
Yeah it's at floor and big money is almost finished buying
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 03:44 PM
Yay normies pump my bags
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Delvin 08-Oct-18 03:50 PM
Thanks very interesting stuff. I assume you don't want to type out the non simplistic version. So if the indicator ever "leaves house" please let me know wouldn't mind paying to test it out
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 03:53 PM
Eventually™. Been in development for a long time now
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Delvin 08-Oct-18 04:06 PM
Well I'm officially on the waiting list
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 04:08 PM
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What indicators do you trade with now? @Delvin(edited)
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Delvin 08-Oct-18 04:35 PM
I mostly just use EMA's 50, 100, 200 and fib retracements/extentions(edited)
I usually have macd histogram Stoch RSI and RSI open on long time frame charts
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 04:37 PM
icky
As long as its +1D its fine I guess
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peerchemist 08-Oct-18 05:14 PM
yep zooming in kills portfolio
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 05:17 PM
RSI/Stoch not meant for <1D
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peerchemist 08-Oct-18 05:18 PM
oh ok, I don't use them
not familar with theory
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captainbuckkets 08-Oct-18 05:23 PM
I'll make it simple. RSI has a one bar lag to price, Stoch has 2 bar and is a derivative of RSI. Too slow and stupid to use effectively
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Delvin 08-Oct-18 10:58 PM
Yeah they aren't really something I use extensively I just find they help me identify the trend direction continuation in conjunction with my main indicators
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captainbuckkets 09-Oct-18 04:49 PM
A 6-part series based on public information sources to present the available evidence surrounding the creation, investigation and shutdown of Silk Road, and the prosecution of Ross Ulbricht.
Episode 2 is out
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Deleted User 11-Oct-18 12:32 PM
SELLING PEERCOIN FOR 8000 SATS INTERESTED PEOPLE CAN CONTACT ME
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peerchemist 11-Oct-18 12:32 PM
escrow?
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Anthony 12-Oct-18 08:55 PM
So time for Bitcoin to fly or?
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necro 14-Oct-18 08:39 AM
nop
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dee2 18-Nov-18 10:08 AM
peercoin 15$?
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uncanny 20-Nov-18 05:36 AM
Hey folks, looking for an OTC trade on peercoin, Id like to buy 6000 PPC for 1.4 BTC, first come first serve i guess
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dee2 21-Nov-18 12:51 PM
so what about the price ?
so low...
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gilson belau 16-Dec-18 12:28 PM
has some PPC portfolio so I can download and from POSE to work, WHERE I CAN DOWNLOAD, YOU PASS ME THE LINK.
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captainbuckkets 16-Dec-18 02:16 PM
@gilson belau what?
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Peter 19-Dec-18 03:18 PM
Xd
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captainbuckkets 12-Jan-19 03:50 PM
This is an updated version of this thread: Wall Observer - The PPC Price Speculation Thread Hopefully this will in part give some market insight, but also provide a place for focused discussion for those who wish to participate. This is in no way financial advice As one of...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 16-Jan-19 06:27 PM
Robert test
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willy 16-Jan-19 06:27 PM
test
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 16-Jan-19 06:27 PM
Robert there you go
Buckkets Awesome!
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Cybnate 19-Jan-19 10:10 PM
Temporary crash? $0.52 at Bittrex and others. BTC up. Did I miss something or just some whales moving?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 19-Jan-19 10:42 PM
Elemecro Hi guys
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captainbuckkets 19-Jan-19 10:51 PM
Probably just a wick. Thin books
I did say .52 bottom though. Hits the .786
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Peter 21-Jan-19 04:55 PM
yea, order books are really thin for PPC now.
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necro 25-Jan-19 01:05 AM
ppc ded
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captainbuckkets 25-Jan-19 01:36 AM
first bear season?
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peerchemist 25-Jan-19 02:28 AM
We ded again :D
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necro 25-Jan-19 05:47 AM
ded as deded we can be
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captainbuckkets 25-Jan-19 12:17 PM
Donate your ppc then lol
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jan-19 08:06 PM
Blanko /p ppc
Blanko /p btc
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Deleted User 02-Feb-19 03:33 PM
Peercoin's dead again guys! Wooh! Many of you know what this means.. because we've been here before.. (even though your emotions may be telling you differently).(edited)
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Irritant 02-Feb-19 03:51 PM
so what if you already sold your house to go all in?
or what do you mean
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peerchemist 02-Feb-19 03:58 PM
Deded
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Irritant 08-Feb-19 11:01 AM
bitfinex glitch?
finex
bitstamp
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Irritant 08-Feb-19 11:53 AM
just lagging behind
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Cybnate 08-Feb-19 06:35 PM
17% up last 24h, not bad Peercoin
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Irritant 17-Feb-19 11:27 AM
is this the bottom?
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Sentinelrv 17-Feb-19 02:29 PM
I hope not. Still waiting for my tax refund money.
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Cybnate 18-Feb-19 01:59 AM
Looks like it is, perhaps a few whales who like to dig a bit, but won't last long. They will loose the battle in the upcoming tide 😃
peercoin 1
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 02:56 AM
They have picked up with the recent rally of crypto, still the price hasnt moved much
I buy coins every 2nd week
Bitcoin transactions are expensive so I purchase bitcoin twice then transfer to bittrex
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Cybnate 20-Feb-19 03:38 PM
DIgging whales are now losing, up is the only way, over $0.50 again(edited)
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peerchemist 20-Feb-19 04:37 PM
Choo choo
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 04:40 PM
Pretty easy bottom to call
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 06:40 PM
Until Bitcoin bottoms out Peercoin aint seen the bottom, still 50 odd cents is pretty cheap
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 06:51 PM
btc bottomed out yesterday
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Feb-19 06:53 PM
bhldev BTC not at the bottom, log function chart goes all the way to 1.2k... if it is bottom it is unusual
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 06:53 PM
IF you guys want to see something interesting, type in "Proof of stake" into google trends and look at the activity around the late 2017/early 2018 bubble of everything
OBviously around the time where Peercoin reached nearly $10 a piece but everything else went ballistic, hopefully peercoin really catches on when people start searching for proof of stake again
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Feb-19 06:56 PM
bhldev Question is how many of you will cash out when it goes to 10 again lol
bhldev Cash out depending on personal circumstances otherwise hodl forever 😋
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:01 PM
I aint selling out for $10 lol, I am pissed that peercoin couldnt at least match litecoin in the last couple of years,
Litecoin was the same thing different colour, still proof of work but different algo and fixed supply.
Peercoin really is a different and more sustainable form of currency,
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Feb-19 07:02 PM
bhldev You should if it will change your life... New TV or new car maybe new house or new business maybe yes
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:03 PM
1% inflation is always going to be lower than fiat money creation so no problem their
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Feb-19 07:04 PM
bhldev Reserve banks in Western countries trying to induce inflation for years and can't do it, if you got a magic wand go tell them lol
bhldev The best they can do is give money to banks, they don't have the power to print money like some dictatorship for themselves
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:05 PM
For me $10 would be a house deposit on an overpriced asset
I just discovered that Peercoin inflation twitter feed! Interesting
So the idea of more inflation/higher reward with less difficultly? Its an interesting concept for sure
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:12 PM
$1.2K?
you say it backwards
the inflation goes down/lower reward with higher difficulty
because it is going up , not down
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:16 PM
I might need to wrap around it a bit more, I suppose theirs alot more hashing power than a year ago in the bitcoin network
Im looking at dollar figures and associating that with lower difficultly
I scrolled back to last year and their were moments looking at the peercoin inflation twitter feed, saying peercoins annual inflation as low as 1.2% often around 1.5%,
Now its at 2.4% inflation with peercoin prices at 50cents basically lows not seen for nearly 2 years
To me looking at prices and inflation, is inflation higher(higher reward) because theirs less difficulty which implies less fiat reward by mining peercoin?
If peercoin booms again to like even $2 or $3, the inflation will go down into the low 1s again?
I know its not a straight forward question, its sha-256 and so is bitcoin, so the price of bitcoin and the mining hardware will chase wherever the returns are
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:20 PM
did you look at the difficulty chart
it was a lot higher
november 2018
but overall it is upward trend
the question is if you have cheap or free electricity
than you can use old hardware and still mine
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:27 PM
Question is why people say we are dead as miners silently turn on their miners
No matter
Time will tell
Again
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:28 PM
investors always say the opposite of what they do
they say dead coin when they are buying it
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:29 PM
One simple question........ Looking at that Peercoin Gigahash(G?) chart, can I look at that number and the corresponding mining reward inflation?
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:29 PM
yes, i used to look at mintr charts, but they are offline until further notice, let me find a chart
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:29 PM
Im assuming is that all we need is double the hash power and peercoin goes to low 1s in inflation?
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:30 PM
I don’t follow
Really, pow blocks are like 1/9 of blocks verified
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:30 PM
we're at 2.4G, spikes as high as 4.5G
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:30 PM
Most blocks are pos verified
But distribution comes from pow primarily
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:31 PM
i cant find a good chart now sorry
but yes, the proof of work reward is tied to the proof of work difficulty
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teek 20-Feb-19 07:32 PM
yeah but for every 4x it halves dist
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:32 PM
Mmmhm
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:33 PM
difficulty == (9999 / (mint per block)) ** 4
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:35 PM
Think it was July 2015 when Peercoin spiked to about $1 and was temporarily the number 4 Crypto, that was pleasing to see but seems like a distant memory now,
Looking at that Peercoin difficulty chart, back then it spiked to 450, now its about 5 times higher, but half the price in dollar terms,
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:36 PM
you can still see historical snapshots on coinmarketcap
Index for weekly historical snapshots of cryptocurrency market capitalizations rankings
well, the difficulty is higher because the advancement in tech, we are like 5th generation asics now or something
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:36 PM
It would be interesting to compare the inflation back then to now, I presume its lower now because of the much higher hash ragte
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:37 PM
meaning, higher hashrate is cheaper
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:37 PM
It is
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:37 PM
Yes exactly, Mining machines wouldnt generally get scrapped I hope?
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:37 PM
Following World War I, Americans entered the “Roaring Twenties”. During the war, factory production had increased massively to produce…
Not to shill my own writing but related
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:38 PM
sometimes, accidents happen
i wouldn't want to be in mining business it is race to the bottom
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:39 PM
Mmhm
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 07:39 PM
they cannot stop, some said
moar moar moar
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:41 PM
Always Pareto
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 07:48 PM
Good read Buckkkets
When Bitcoin had its first bubble that I followed from $40-$1,200 and started researching alt coin, I felt that Peercoin had the right balance
I cant believe that so much focus is put on fixed supply, seems like the most childish to give a digital asset
Proof of stake was and has turned out to be the future
If I become a peercoin whale and feel the price is right, I can sell off my staked coins and still have my original number of tokens, with Bitcoin if you spend it you cant earn it back
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captainbuckkets 20-Feb-19 07:56 PM
You don’t earn much of anything back
Minting is to maintain your position relative to the supply as it inflates
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 08:03 PM
third address in the top 100 just stopped minting in 2015
wonder what happened
those coins are probably lost
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dirkmirk 20-Feb-19 08:05 PM
Something Ive always wondered, if we have close enough to 1% inflation because of high mining difficulty, if only half the token holders are staking, does that mean the inflation rate is more like 0.5% or do the stakers get double the reward?
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Irritant 20-Feb-19 08:07 PM
yes
there is also tx fee burning to counter the inflation
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Nagalim 21-Feb-19 12:37 AM
@dirkmirk see rfc0011
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 21-Feb-19 01:57 AM
Robert
Reply to @Irritant i cant find a good chart now sorry
Working on it
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Cybnate 21-Feb-19 11:47 PM
Re fee burning, this is quite fascinating. Technically PPC can have deflation when the number of transactions goes really crazy and the mining difficulty stays high. Anyone thought about this scenario before? It would probably skyrocket PPC as the coin would become scarce. Dreaming mode off 😃
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teek 22-Feb-19 12:17 AM
the fixed fee is is pressure in the other direction that would keep it from really happening though.. ie: theoretically if ppc was $1k fee would be $10 tx
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Cybnate 22-Feb-19 04:25 AM
Good point, beauty of the algorithm, but a $1 fee might be acceptable for the right application.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Feb-19 04:41 AM
Peerchemist fee economics are changing with v0.7
Peerchemist have that in mind
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Feb-19 09:48 AM
Blanko /p ppc
Blanko /btc
Blanko /p btc
Blanko /p ada
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teek 22-Feb-19 11:57 AM
@peerchemist forgot about that.. so fees per kb stay the same but min fee drops, didn't realize it was so soon thought it was off in the distance for some reason
welp bring on the tx's
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Feb-19 12:12 PM
Peerchemist I dont think number of txns and burning of fee have any economic impact on the Peercoin
Peerchemist min fee stays the same (for now), at 0.01
Peerchemist it's just fine grained over that, ie no more rounding
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 23-Feb-19 10:44 PM
johnny are people realizing the importance of PoS over PoW more and more? Ethereum will function more as a PoS has time goes on. is this a way of longetvity ?
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Irritant 24-Feb-19 06:39 AM
But how do people REALLY feel about crossing 4k per btc now? https://t.co/mXrkAtUMDW
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necro 24-Feb-19 08:00 AM
not for long
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Irritant 24-Feb-19 09:53 AM
o_O
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necro 24-Feb-19 11:17 AM
told ya
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captainbuckkets 24-Feb-19 01:03 PM
Hit my target. Will see if it holds
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dirkmirk 24-Feb-19 06:25 PM
Nope LOL!
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dirkmirk 24-Feb-19 06:40 PM
$50 a realistic price for PPC in the next fews during a BUBBLE?
market cap would be around 1.3 Billion, I think it could happen if Bitcoin is hitting around $50-$100K, my personal opinion is that Bitcoin wont hit $100K in the next bubble,
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captainbuckkets 24-Feb-19 06:56 PM
Hit my target. Will see if it holds Target was 7700-7800
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dirkmirk 24-Feb-19 07:06 PM
Target for what?
or what currency?
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captainbuckkets 24-Feb-19 08:11 PM
BTC
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teek 25-Feb-19 01:40 PM
When XRP?? Now! XRP/USD, XRP/EUR, and XRP/BTC order books will soon enter transfer-only mode, accepting inbound transfers of XRP in supported regions. Orders cannot be placed or filled. Order books will be in transfer-only mode for a minimum of 12 hours. https://t.co/MWUtU...
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ugh
shitcoins gonna shitcoin
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peerchemist 25-Feb-19 02:11 PM
top kek
I dont think you should call it a shitcoin, as it's not a coin
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captainbuckkets 25-Feb-19 02:18 PM
o no
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dirkmirk 25-Feb-19 03:33 PM
XRP is an enigma, its the epitome of digital fiat,
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peerchemist 25-Feb-19 03:37 PM
hm, to be fiat it would have to be printed by a central authorithy?
it's not printed (anymore), right?
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dirkmirk 25-Feb-19 03:40 PM
I dont know, I actually dont know much about XRP, I thought it was created with the stroke of a keyboard and tokens sold off by a central authority.
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peerchemist 25-Feb-19 03:47 PM
sure it was, but that kind of behaviour is now normalized between "investors" and traders alike
ever since the ICO bubble
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teek 25-Feb-19 03:55 PM
it kind of is printed.. i mean yeah sure it has a hard cap.. but it is controlled release.. basically the same as printing
they just did all the printing all at once
at any rate its pure junk and i think we all agree on that one 😃
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Feb-19 03:57 PM
Peerchemist I don't think it's relevant for the debate really
Peerchemist Sure exchanges love it as it's the first crypto to utilize the market maker and their mm is still best in the business
Peerchemist That's all it is, it might as well be sql entry
Peerchemist It's not like market in its present condition can understand what is what
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captainbuckkets 25-Feb-19 04:16 PM
idk what cripple is even anymore(edited)
I just know some shills told me that "14 banks in east asia are gonna use it and make it go to $5.13"(edited)
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teek 25-Feb-19 06:16 PM
might as well be a SQL record is right
its really nothing more
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 26-Feb-19 01:45 AM
Peerchemist But really all of crypto can be the same at this point
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captainbuckkets 03-Mar-19 01:44 PM
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Mar-19 11:25 PM
jzr in 2013 ppc got to 0.009 or 0.01 btc
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captainbuckkets 03-Mar-19 11:29 PM
mmhm
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 19-Mar-19 08:58 AM
Who doesn't want to make money? The meme "I'm into crypto for the technology!" has become a metaphor of the way in which a new technology can be championed - or compromised - by the corrosive influence of greed.   It's not an altogether bad thing;  many of us
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dirkmirk 19-Mar-19 07:04 PM
Bitcoin is slowly edging up, anyone have thoughts of where Bitcoin is going? I think if the stocks market crash its bad for crypto, if the bullrun continues then its good for crypto
I think if Bitcoin goes back into the 2s its a pretty good buy,
I doubt it would go below 2, my reasoning, when the last block halving happened in July 2016, the price of Bitcoin slowly gained to $670 or so, looking at the selling pressure of mined coins at 3,600 per day before the halving, thats about 2.4 million per day to soak up the supply, at $3,000 when the next block halving occurs with 900 coins per day, thats 2.7 million in new money to keep the price level with supply, I know Im talking about the tailend and the begining of a new block halving but its interesting to me none the less, The interest in Bitcoin today is nothing like it was in mid 2016
Even a flash crash below $3,500 could be a screaming buy, hard to tell where this market is going, longer term it has to be higher than it is now, only reason im talking about Bitcoin is obviously it moves the whole market peercoin included, in theory the hashrate should go up for peercoin id imagine and the supply drops towards 1% again?
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captainbuckkets 19-Mar-19 07:11 PM
Halvening has little to do with artificial supply and demand
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dirkmirk 19-Mar-19 07:12 PM
It has everything to do with supply for miners
wanting revenue, its impossible to tell how traders and hodlrs are going to react,
Why the stock markets are important, if people need quick easy money, crypto is one of those things
people loosing their jobs in recessions etc
When people are feeling good, asset rich, have a job, thats when its bullish for crypto
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captainbuckkets 19-Mar-19 07:17 PM
Sure. Traders not so much. Hash must just then increase
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Irritant 19-Mar-19 07:21 PM
i think with previous halvenings the price went up signif
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captainbuckkets 19-Mar-19 07:31 PM
They are training you to think associate that
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Irritant 19-Mar-19 07:40 PM
we'll see in 1 year and 2 months
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dirkmirk 19-Mar-19 07:45 PM
I was wrong about the 2016 block halving, I presumed that Bitcoin would slump back down after the halving, i.e the leadup to $700 was all hype around the supply dropping but it went on a parabolic bullrun, I think the supply has alot to do with the price at the moment, I think once the supply is dropping to like 225/122 the block halvings are going to become less relevant to hype, at the moment going from 1,800-900 is a big chunk of supply
I wont be so bullish in the future,
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Irritant 19-Mar-19 07:45 PM
well it is more about the cost of mining
cost of mining 1 btc will double
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dirkmirk 19-Mar-19 07:50 PM
How is that logical?
If the price of bitcoin goes down, so does the cost of mining a bitcoin
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Irritant 19-Mar-19 07:51 PM
i mean when halving
the revenue drops
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dirkmirk 19-Mar-19 07:52 PM
Correct, if the price remains stable,
that coins can be sold for
I dont know about you, I put X amount of dollars per week into crypto, thats not going to change when the block halving occurs,
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Irritant 19-Mar-19 07:53 PM
difficulty might drop a bit when some miners turn off their operation because it is not profitable anymore
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dirkmirk 19-Mar-19 07:53 PM
In that thoery, price could easily double, depends of what traders and hodlrs are doing for the most part but miners need income
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Irritant 19-Mar-19 07:54 PM
so you can buy less coins for the same amount
price should go up?
yes
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dirkmirk 19-Mar-19 07:54 PM
Yeah,
I was going off basic maths, coin supply times price equals X million per day, if X million per day remains constant then coin price should go up
with the block halvening
All that is irrelevant if the stock markets crash and we go into another depression/gfc, I dont think people will hold their crypto as its never been tested as a store of value,
If the world economy is strong their is no need to sell crypto your probably accumumlating
Thats why im torn whether to go in big or just keep putting a modest amount in every week, 12-18 months if things remain stable I could make a killing, we enter another gfc I'll see that money evaporate
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Irritant 19-Mar-19 08:01 PM
dont put in what you cant afford to lose
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dirkmirk 19-Mar-19 08:13 PM
I dont even know the meaning of the word lol!
As you as have a comfortable life, is that it means? I see it as a potential setback, not sure what cant afford to loose means
Sell your house? Car? As long as I have a job I dont see the problem
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dirkmirk 22-Mar-19 08:40 PM
I wonder if theirs a way we can get someone like Mike Maloney and get him interested in Peercoin...
A Gold bull who's into crypto, Peter Schiff doesn't like it but gold is inflationary like Peercoin both increase at a very similar rate, I think they'd both agree as long as your gold is being extracted at a rate less than fiat creation your onto a winner, which is why Peercoin had the right model IMO
Also thinking about gold that's often bought up in discussion, is the history of gold, crypto being only 10 years old and what's the closest thing to gold in the crypto world? Bitcoin might be called digital gold but is not designed like gold, Peercoin has the history on it's and the right level of inflation to be useful
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Sentinelrv 22-Mar-19 09:04 PM
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captainbuckkets 22-Mar-19 10:15 PM
@dirkmirk Schiff holds too much gold to consider anything else. Will never be interested in a competitor
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dirkmirk 22-Mar-19 10:16 PM
Hi Sentinelrv, I have read parts of that document that's probably where I got some of my ideas
I think schiffs biggest problem is that he doubled and tripled down on his hatred for crypto
The good thing about Peercoin, it was created to be a digital store of value like Bitcoin or litecoin, before it's time buts it's not a competitor to Ethereum or Tron or Cardano etc
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Sentinelrv 22-Mar-19 10:26 PM
It's also part of Schiff's business right? He sells precious metals from what I understand.(edited)
I actually got a picture one time of me with him and Rand Paul. It was at a fundraiser for Ron Paul 2012 early in the campaign.
I found it.
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captainbuckkets 22-Mar-19 10:37 PM
Yes he’s a gold bug(edited)
People shill proportionally to what they hold
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teek 22-Mar-19 11:16 PM
were you in crypto by then sent?
cool pic that guy has a less than zero chance of being president one day
oh for the 2012 campaign that means it was probably like 2011 ya probably not in crypto
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Sentinelrv 22-Mar-19 11:23 PM
No, I didn't get involved until early 2013. I found out about crypto through the Ron Paul forum I visited though.(edited)
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captainbuckkets 22-Mar-19 11:23 PM
Lmfao @teek fully agree although it makes me sad
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teek 22-Mar-19 11:24 PM
doesnt make me as sad as some of the other possibilities..
oh sorry i said less than zero i meant more than zero
lmao
altho less than zero is much funnier
😛
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Sentinelrv 22-Mar-19 11:28 PM
I think he has zero chance while the deep state establishment is still a threat, as he doesn't have the type of personality to break through. Trump was more of a fighter and was able to break through where Rand could not. If Trump is able to take out the deep state and prosecute them all, maybe there is a better chance for someone like Rand, but it's difficult to know.
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teek 22-Mar-19 11:30 PM
id agree thats why its may as well be zero in a way ..
but in a way not
hes getting way more popular among the non-rinos
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Sentinelrv 22-Mar-19 11:32 PM
That seemed to be the case for most of the last year, but they got pissed when he voted against the wall.
or rather the national emergency.
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teek 22-Mar-19 11:34 PM
i didnt follow that too closely but it does seem like something a guy like that wouldn't automatically support .. its controversial.. i agree with the wall.. not 100% on board with national emergency strategy
however gotta do what you gotta do i get that
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captainbuckkets 22-Mar-19 11:34 PM
Republicans are on the way out. The young kids are shifting libertarian to communism rather than trad lib and conservative
Everything is getting more extreme in the schools
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teek 22-Mar-19 11:36 PM
the swamp repubs and rinos are on the way out.. MAGA isnt actually republician
id agree with you
the scary part is the commie kids
its real
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Sentinelrv 22-Mar-19 11:37 PM
I think the problem is that many Republicans are actually just Democrats in disguise (the RINOS). Trump is transforming the party. They now hate people like Paul Ryan, John McCain and Mitt Romney and they support more MAGA candidates like Trump.
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teek 22-Mar-19 11:38 PM
yeah but i dont think it can actually be transformed
its like its own thing
(maga)
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Sentinelrv 22-Mar-19 11:40 PM
They are resisting yes, but we'll see how long that lasts.
I'm starting to think the new AG William Barr might be the real deal. I'm looking forward to the indictments.
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teek 22-Mar-19 11:44 PM
waiting for those indictments for what 3 years soon.. lmao
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Sentinelrv 22-Mar-19 11:49 PM
Yeah, it seems many are impatient. I've been trying to figure out what is going on. Jeff Sessions was either clueless or compromised, not sure which one yet. Trump has been giving these little hints in his tweets like something is coming though. Like he'll point to some new info and say more to come, or asks will justice finally be served? It's like he already knows and is toying with them. I'm starting to think he strategized for this all to occur during the election season to throw them off message and do as much damage as possible. I guess we'll find out soon.
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Irritant 23-Mar-19 06:08 AM
If you own shares in any US stock market listed company sell them now, while you still can. Reinvest in gold, silver or crypto. Trust me.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 23-Mar-19 11:13 AM
0/ The Ripple securities class action took a step forward this week, as the court set a schedule for roughly the next year of litigation. Here's an update on where the case stands, what's next, and when we'll answer the question that never dies: "is XRP a security?" Thre...
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Irritant 23-Mar-19 11:53 AM
@dirkmirk ive been thinking about the peercoin/gold comparison, and i thought maybe it should be possible to get an very high reward every once in a while, like a lottery, because sometimes with gold people find a big chunk at once, but very rarily . Maybe the PoW blocks could be seen like this
tho it would give big incentive to mint PoS(edited)
The Hand of Faith is a nugget of fine-quality gold that was found by Kevin Hillier using a metal detector near Kingower, Victoria, Australia on 26 September 1980. Weighing 875 troy ounces (27.21 kg, or 72 troy pounds and 11 troy ounces), the gold nugget was only 12 inches bel...
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captainbuckkets 23-Mar-19 12:12 PM
We really do not want to be gold. Gold is an extremely complex asset that cannot be used to buy and sell things
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Irritant 23-Mar-19 12:14 PM
because it is physical
we kinda fixed that
we should do scientific test
what weights more, 1 ounce of gold or 1 ounce of peercoin
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Irritant 23-Mar-19 12:50 PM
xD
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captainbuckkets 23-Mar-19 12:58 PM
Could technically figure out how much a full harddrive weighs and what the weight of the blockchain would be at an ounce
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dirkmirk 23-Mar-19 02:55 PM
Is this discord the best place to discuss Peercoin? Their isn't alot of discussion around Peercoin hence why I'm asking the question, people who think of buying are probably turned off by lack of activity
I find America such an interesting place when you guys talk about politics, I'm from Australia and a stark difference seems to be our social security/healthcare and minimum wage, for example, these are all very good but so many in America are so against the idea and want the user pay/capitilist model as if it works the best,
You need strong safety nets so people don't resort to crime, money if they're unemployed health Care if they get sick, America has an extremely high incarceration rate.
We don't consider ourselves big socialists or communists lol
What's the other one Tyranny and lack of freedoms because of strong gun laws, now that is a nutty argument seems to be alot of doomsday preppers/conspiracy theorists, can't believe how strong and vocal the gun movement is over their they were frothing at the mouth when Trump was going to ban bump stocks because of last Vegas, that I will never understand.
Some views from an Australian hahaha
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teek 23-Mar-19 04:03 PM
im canadian.. the only socialist policy i somewhat agree with this health care, but even then it should be a hybrid model where everyone is guaranteed a level of coverage but people should be free to choose to pay for better .. (basically doesnt exist here everyone gets the same here rich or poor) ... amercias extremely high incarceration rate is largely due to a fake / manufactured drug problem and industry built around it .. (real) criminals are going to be criminals regardless of social safety nets.. just encourages lazyness .. Castreau is going to try and roll out UBI here to try and save his gov just watch.. guns are tools.. criminals dont follow gun laws. i hold a gun license myself in canada and think there are far too many restrictions on firearms as it is. taking guns away from law abiding citizens solves nothing except weaken the population. criminals have access to a wider array of guns than i do.. in canada if i want to buy a handgun i must present my license at the point of purchase and register it right there and then, and then i cannot have it with me in public only in my home or to goto directly to the range / club.. gun runners have no such requirements..
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Irritant 23-Mar-19 04:13 PM
@captainbuckkets i've found your office
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captainbuckkets 23-Mar-19 04:13 PM
<.<
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Irritant 23-Mar-19 04:13 PM
This is what happens when rendering at 5 A.M. as a game design college student Contact Me - younghr@etsu.edu Twitter - https://twitter.com/fscnightmare/statu...
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captainbuckkets 23-Mar-19 04:14 PM
its actually me(edited)
wow
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dirkmirk 23-Mar-19 04:52 PM
Teek, your wrong about criminals not following gun laws bit it's a discussion we'll have to agree to disagree, New Zealand..... The shooter was Australian, legally purchased those firearms in New Zealand and from my understanding he was able to buy large capacity magazines even though it was illegal to use in the rifle.
Why didn't he break the law in Australia to acquire those guns and shoot up a mosuqe in Syndey? Short answer it's basically impossible to buy a high powered semi automatic rifle, they practically don't exist
Different situation in North America as it shares borders with Mexico/America/Canada, New Zealand and Australia are good places to have restrictions on weapons because they're island nation's
And about criminals being armed yes the hells angels or comanchero bikie gangs, middle eastern organised crime etc probably have access to AR-15s but it's better that those guys have guns than petty criminals and the mentally I'll, that's the big problem, someone desperate being armed or someone with nothing to loose, just a shame that your culture defines a person so much because of a gun
Or should I say people are so attached it's like an identity,
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Irritant 23-Mar-19 05:01 PM
well, it is nice to be able to defend yourself, here the state has monopoly on violence, citizens cannot even protect against the state if they have to, in usa they understand
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captainbuckkets 23-Mar-19 05:02 PM
Pleasee move the discussion to #off-topic if you dont mind :)
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dirkmirk 23-Mar-19 05:05 PM
Shall do
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Mar-19 04:15 PM
Petr So...
Petr The wallet does not sync yet, do I have to create the file.conf with all its nodes?
Digi You shouldn't have to
Digi Did you have the old wallet ver. ?
Petr Never had problems before the fork. I have version 7.2
Petr However I created the file.conf with the nodes found in the explorer.
Digi Never have had to create a file.conf i have added nodes before but shit that was many versions ago like 2015 era
Petr But if I use the smart firewall, if they see 2-3 links, they don't establish.
Digi Have you uninstalled and reinstalled also possible your firewall is blocking it?
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captainbuckkets 27-Mar-19 04:24 PM
You shouldn't have to make a conf file
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Mar-19 04:24 PM
Digi I know i have to allow for firewall
Digi i said file config im dyslexic today
Petr Yeah, I've never used file.conf before
Petr Seems to recover, I have 4 connections, but I have disabled my firewall! Before I didn't have to!
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captainbuckkets 27-Mar-19 04:33 PM
Should need to be "allowed" no disabled
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Mar-19 04:33 PM
Digi Yup^
Digi Need to goo into firewall settings and allow wallet
Digi Or uninstall and re install and allow when firewall triggers
Digi If you see a click more info hit that and allow
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Mar-19 05:35 PM
Satish How’s Tether still a thing??
Peerchemist
Reply to Satish How’s Tether still a thing??
Because crypto.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Mar-19 05:49 PM
Shamil
Reply to Petr The wallet does not sync yet, do I have to create the file.conf with all its nodes?
you are stuck on the wrong fork by the sounds of it, best would be to resync
Satichi
Reply to Peerchemist Because crypto.
Oh yeah! That’s the question within that answer. Irony never seems to leave the planet.
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 02:03 AM
the price of ppc dropped so much that even the dev team doesn't buy it
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 02:06 AM
so sad
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 02:06 AM
Not sure where you got that information
But if you want to sell, I know a people willing to take PPC off your hands
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 02:11 AM
Petr Give me a clear example, why does PPC depend on the BTC price !?
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 02:13 AM
Doesn't
was at a very nice dollar peg for a while. Now its at 50c which is nice as well
I understand you don't care about Peercoin as a currency, but rather as a quick riches investment, but currencies are not meant to be volatile,
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 02:19 AM
Petr If you're referring to me, you're wrong, I had PPC and I didn't even sell them for 5-6-7 € in 2017 ...
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 02:19 AM
I'm not
But if you want to sell, I know people very hungry to buy
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 02:20 AM
Petr A laugh early in the morning is good ....
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 02:22 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
thats fine
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 02:32 AM
the price dropped more that 20 times
if you would have bought btc now you would had a fortune...instead...you are bagholding PPC hahahaha
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 02:35 AM
Thems the way the market goes
Lots of opportunities, but just dpends on your perspective. Some people want more fiat, some people want more crypto
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 02:39 AM
agree...I only say this to raise a signal that even though you are buying...and are a lot of holders...holding will not bring you anything. I think not even developers hold PPC right now. They've sold it for btc and as soon as you buy it...with your btc they sell it instantly they are not supporting the coin price...even though you give them btc(edited)
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 02:46 AM
Well it doesn't really matter what you "think" if the reality is different. But this isn't about the developers, its about your wish for price to increase without you doing any work
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 02:58 AM
lol
is this a morning tard roll call
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 02:58 AM
yes...this is true...like the dev is doing some work
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 02:59 AM
Petr Can you tell how many admin's you are?
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 02:59 AM
is this trader anonymous support group? i hope to hear some people who bought gbyte at 1btc
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 02:59 AM
they should of rolled out smartContracts on PPC a lot time before...now eth is stealing the tech...and PPC was the first POS in the world
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 02:59 AM
Its just venting because people can't read charts
smart contracts has nothing to do with validation protocol
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 03:00 AM
it is should have
since when are people saying should of
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:00 AM
well, you understood did him, didn't you
eth is not stealing tech, there's enough room for millions of coins
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:01 AM
yeah...sure
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:01 AM
it's only a beginning of new era
however, x10 times are long over
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:02 AM
did nothing...and always is new era
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:02 AM
well, i don't blame you for doing nothing, it's a reasonable choice
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:02 AM
why buy ppc...?
and not btc?(edited)
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:02 AM
nobody is telling you to buy
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:03 AM
^
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:03 AM
don't buy, just sell it and be done with it, reach peace with yourself
your health is more important than potential returns
and of course ,this is not bottom
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:07 AM
no way...I'm not selling but people must understand that instead of throwing their priceless btc on some shitty coin like PPC that does nothing as trade...it should be better to remain in btc. ppc has the technological capacity to stand above all coins. instead the team does nothing
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:08 AM
ok, i'll bite, what should team do
please enlighten
apart from accumulating ppc
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:12 AM
they are selling PPC not accumulating...where did you come up with that...the smartContracts...where is the smartcontract...where is the android wallet ...what are the companies that agree to work with PPC...what markets does PPC has...these are important questions and the dev team...in about 4 years should have answers not only spending the investors founds
the financial sector...the banks and other companies...the POS tech shoul adopt it by now...what efforts has PPC engaged in for such approach...none
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:17 AM
where is the smartcontract
explain smart contracts to me so we are on the same page
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:17 AM
they are selling PPC not accumulating.
where is the proof
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:18 AM
he just means team should be responsible for perpetual increase of value regardless of the costs to the team
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:18 AM
the proof is in the fact the price is 30times down?
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:19 AM
you know the BTC core team isn't responsible for the price of BTC, but I guess thats irrelevant
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:19 AM
who holds the largest quantity of PPC?us ?
the people?
no..btc shifted it's owners from the price of 50usd
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:20 AM
wex(edited)
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:20 AM
not to mention the so called frauds like gox and others
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:21 AM
Older fishies
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:22 AM
not to mention the recently forced drop of price from 6k to 3k with the help of a wale that agreed to sell just to manipulate the price and buy cheap at 3k(edited)
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:22 AM
unlike modern instamine/premine coins with "dev fund" peercoin has no such things
coins are owned by those who bought them on the market
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:23 AM
I didn't read that article, will you send it RE: with the help of a wale that agreed to sell just to manipulate the price and buy cheap at 3k
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:23 AM
developers buy coins just like everyone else
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:24 AM
ok... but what have they done so far for the adoption?
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:24 AM
who? wex?
not a lot
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:24 AM
lol
I think the type of project he is looking for is an ICO
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:24 AM
ico game is over
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:24 AM
no ICO
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:24 AM
They usually make a cup and handle. Buy the bottom of the cup and sell the next top
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:25 AM
ICO is not good
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:25 AM
idk that you know what good is since you think BTC is to be held in the highest of esteems
lucky that peerchemist is asleep for you to mention ETH in this chat lol
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:26 AM
tell me, why team should do anything to increase market cost of the coin if team has miniscule stake?
i mean look at rich list
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:26 AM
it is what I've said...not even developers buy it
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:27 AM
why should they buy it? they are developers not traders
why should i buy anything until wex dumped the bags?
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:27 AM
Always bigger fish
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:29 AM
how do you engage other people to buy it
you don't develop new features
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:29 AM
Yeah nothing like PeerAssets or Perpera
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:29 AM
you don't have wallets and not even integration with real shops
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:29 AM
or the core RFCs that backpacker implements
why use a third party wallet that is built for ERC20 shitcoins and doesn't support minting?
There is a list of vendors somewhere
plenty of places take PPC and I'm the one reaching out to more
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:30 AM
and mostly...the price is so low....that people are afraid to put their btc on trade
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:31 AM
but let me tell you something. Nobody is interested in using something for payment that goes up in price
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:31 AM
like i said, it's not the bottom yet, don't put your btc here, just sell
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:31 AM
so you choose
shop integration or value that increases over time(edited)
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:31 AM
sell before wex
that's all advice i can give you for your investment
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:33 AM
I'd just recommend staying out of crypto(edited)
"Crypto markets are designed to inflict maximum pain"
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:34 AM
yeah I'll probably post another chart with another ATL than an increased ATH
just to see how scams are done
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backpacker 28-Mar-19 03:35 AM
parse error
anyway, have a good day, HighLow, good to have you on board
i'll get back to work
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:35 AM
scams go up
rarely down
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:37 AM
look at the chart...and convince me that 4years of PPC...and not PPC only is not scam and the only increased value that I've seen is on BTC
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 03:38 AM
unable to compute
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:40 AM
scams go up
then it comes out about how things really work
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:40 AM
they took all btc from people
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:41 AM
Re: ENRON
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 03:41 AM
they sold everything
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:41 AM
aight well nothing we can do about it. This discord is for developers
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Would go complain to core devs then
Perhaps they will give you a refund
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 03:42 AM
drink responsibly
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 03:43 AM
trade responsibly
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 03:55 AM
Mayhem is coming! Tune in tomorrow at 2pm EDT / 11am PDT at Borderlands.com for Gearbox’s PAX East livestream. International Times: March 28th - 11:00am PDT ...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 12:06 PM
Peerchemist Openmarketcap shows Cryptocurrencies without their fake volume, shocking results https://openmarketcap.com/exchanges/difference
Use OpenMarketCap to get crypto prices and volumes from trusted exchanges
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 12:53 PM
Digi Yup its crazy
Digi Thought Wex disappeared again ?
Peerchemist Wex is ded
Digi Yeah i thought so fucking thiefs
Peerchemist They did incredible damage to the peercoin community
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 01:43 PM
Digi Yup only lost 7ltc thankfully got the rest out of there before it went to complete shit
Digi Been here since 2014 just wish I would have mined btc and bought ppc lol all hind sight now
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 02:31 PM
PAX EAST 2019 Main Theater Show
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 05:16 PM
@HighLow you should not spread rumors unless you have proof. I’m on the team and I’ve bought over 10k PPC since the price fell and I’ll continue to buy until we go back over $1 again.
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:17 PM
You dont need to tell him how much you have
Nor does it matter. He doesn't know anything
The people that build cars for Ford are not responsible for the price of the stock going up
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 05:30 PM
Yes, I understand. I don’t really care if anyone knows what I do regarding trading though. I just didn’t like his assertion that the team doesn’t care. Nothing has happened to shake my faith in Peercoin’s future potential. I look at these price levels as a massive opportunity.(edited)
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:33 PM
Don't feed trolls
Price must go up infinitely for them to be happy
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:34 PM
@Sentinelrv you reopt yourself to usd ...but I put in front the BTC chart and looks like PPC is stealing investor's BTC. unless ppc doesn't beat it's ATH on BTC...than the coin is scam
and your price level reveals...scuze me...for saing...reveals the fraud
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:36 PM
lol
unless ppc doesn't beat it's ATH on BTC...than the coin is scam
See
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 05:37 PM
HighLow = nic carter?
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:37 PM
@Sentinelrv can u comment the PPC chart reported on BTC?because on usd is irrelevant as ppc doesn't have marker on usd
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 05:37 PM
Yeah, that’s a ridiculous way of thinking about it.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 05:38 PM
Petr The price and date of the request and mathematics.
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:38 PM
noo...all I said...it was better to buy btc than ppc
and I've show you the chart of PPC
reported on btc...
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 05:39 PM
fyi dash is a scam
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:39 PM
on a 3year period
the ting that happened is that people gave you their btc and you sold it
big scam
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 05:40 PM
who?
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:41 PM
no one shuld invest in such coins
they must keep their btc
not throwing on such coins
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:42 PM
Dash went up, so must not be a scam
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 05:42 PM
I don’t really care about what the charts say. The team is busy working on modernizing the protocol. I’m sure price will work itself out as time goes on. I’m not really worried about it.
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:42 PM
Even with premine
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 05:42 PM
nobody took btc
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 05:42 PM
Petr Btc no It POS!😝
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:42 PM
even with 10-15% of the supply was mined in the first couple hours
but price went up
must not be a scam
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:42 PM
hahahha 15% up? are you joking?
maan
ppc valued at least 200k sat
now is 10k sat?
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 05:43 PM
...
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:44 PM
and 15% on a coin from that kind of drop...you consider mindblowing
my god...what planet have you arrived?
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 05:44 PM
I don’t own any BTC because I don’t believe in it. I only collect PPC and never sell it.
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:45 PM
good to you
then buy now at this price
i'll stick with btc
it is not that I don't like ppc I like it a lot
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 05:46 PM
Petr Anyone can I explain in a phrase the essence of the PPC project?
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 05:47 PM
but sticking the us dollar price...is irrelevant...as ppc is reported to btc and after that to dolar. when btc will be 100k usd maybe ppc is 1usd. what kind of logic do you have?
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 05:48 PM
It’s difficult to put into a small phrase because there are lots of aspects to it. The best thing you can do is link people to the website. Explanations on the home page have been shortened.
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 05:49 PM
digital gold
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:49 PM
Learn to read
hahahha 15% up? are you joking?
Instamined 15% of the supply
1-2 million
@HighLow go back to the BitconnectServer
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 05:51 PM
i'll start a liquer store, accepting peercoin
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:53 PM
Nah that would be scam
You must open a liquor store and put all profits into driving the price of PPC up
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 05:55 PM
When Binance?
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 05:58 PM
Exactly
Idk @Sentinelrv ur a community traitor
sell your blood and plasma to drive price up
and an organ if you can
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 06:00 PM
Sorry guys. Let me sell my car. That should help. I’ll just walk to work from now on.
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 06:00 PM
Do that yes
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 06:00 PM
Petr Lavoro in building, restructuring etc. I will invoice it with PPC for my clients, it will be compulsory.
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 06:00 PM
Probably take me 3 hours though.
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 06:00 PM
I'm actually gonna go rob a gas station brb
Im skipping meals to buy more
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 06:01 PM
Peerchemist The guy you are talking too does not follow your story
Peerchemist He is talking one thing and you the other
Peerchemist He also does not know much
Petr Do we go laughing?
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 06:03 PM
yes
and when delisting the coin will come?
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 06:03 PM
Idk ill get you a pen and paper if you want to write to Bittrex and suggest it
Only been there for six years
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 06:04 PM
Peerchemist Buckkets just stop
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 06:04 PM
Aight aight
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 06:04 PM
Petr My natural planting ...
Peerchemist @highlow delisting when we finish selling the coins
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HighLow 28-Mar-19 06:22 PM
too bad for the coin
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 06:29 PM
Peerchemist Imagine how many millions we got from selling 25M coins
Peerchemist Since 2012
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 06:55 PM
Digi Poor troll baby sold low(edited)
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 07:05 PM
Peercoin has a market cap of 14 million , it could go to 2.8 billion in the next bull run and it still wont rate a mention,
Peercoin has the potential, POTENTIAL.
Crazy ass predictions for XRP are everywhere but its already mooned and still at the moon, news doesnt shift the price
Im gonna use language that ive often seen used by crypto youtubers but I think its a fair point, imagine when people are looking at coinmarketcap and see Peercoin as the number 3/4 crypto and delve into the POS history, the design of inflation of peercoin, tell me the downside risk of a 14 million Peercoin?
looking at the coinmarketcap history, I always felt Peercoin had the right economics and a sustainable inflation model with POS, that hasnt changed, their have been talks of increasing inflation to make Peercoin more attractive to investors so you cant win with everyone, ITs either not scarce like Bitcoin or litecoin or the reward is too low
1% is the right number, its more or less half of fiat creation in a low inflation enviroment,
I personally wanna see peercoin and the crypto market as a whole crash, I want sh!tloads more peercoin and a price drop will do that for me, my bags arent full enough
Downside risk to peercoin is like 10-20 cents at most IMO,
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 07:12 PM
Are you referring to Nagalim’s RFC?
when you say talks of increasing inflation?
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 07:13 PM
Im just rambling, I saw some comments about peercoins performance in the crypto market and airing my thoughts
Inflation, not serious thoughts but their isnt much discussion around peercoin, I saw it mentioned in a reddit years ago but someone
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 07:14 PM
I was talking about this, just in case you haven’t seen it yet: https://talk.peercoin.net/t/rfc-0011-pos-inflation-adjustment/8757
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 07:19 PM
Is that saying, IF total coin count is 25 million and 15 million coins are staking, you essentially increase your reward by staking to 1.66%? I.E the inflation rate is 1% of 25 million and will increase by that much and the minters share the 250,000 coins proportional to their holding?
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 07:20 PM
Says the % is dynamic
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 07:21 PM
I dont undestand it in that case,
It their a simple way to explain how it works?
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 07:21 PM
We have moved forward a step with this: it has passed the sniff test of our devs. Most of the contentious has fallen to nAnnualPoSReward, which is where I expected it would lie. I am thinking of alternative implementations, I will enumerate some here. The first is how it is currently written. Add up all the PoS rewards in a year. Main Challenges: Indexing all 50k blocks within the year Take one PoS block from the past, say 1000 blocks from the tip of the chain and multiply by 52560 blocks/year. Main Challenges: Lack of averaging allows for manipulation and irregularities Take the dayweight of a stake from the past, say 1000 blocks from the tip of the chain, and use it with the difficulty at that time to estimate number of coins minting. Multiply that by 0.01 to get the PoS rewards. Main Challenges: Lack of averaging allows for manipulation and irregularities Take method 2 or 3 and average over many blocks, possibly skipping around in the history a la stakemodifier. Main Challenges: Averaging over 52560 blocks in the past year approximately converges method 1 and 2.
This is a proposal, you could ask on the thread
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 07:21 PM
1% is easy enough to understand, is that saying proof of stake coin increase the supply by more than 1% of total peercoins in one year?
We have 25 million or so coins, minting can now create more than 250,000 in year, is that the idea?
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 07:22 PM
I don't know. Haven't read this in a very long time
Perhaps @Sentinelrv knows since he posted it
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 07:24 PM
@Nagalim would need to answer your questions on it.
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captainbuckkets 28-Mar-19 07:25 PM
Its a proposal still so the details aren't finalized
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 07:27 PM
The way I understood is that currently annual PoS inflation can only be 1% if all PPC were minting. It’s actually much lower than that. And this RFC would actually set PoS inflation at the full 1% per year.(edited)
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 07:27 PM
Ah, essentially what Im getting at?
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 07:47 PM
I don’t think what you said is correct. People mistakenly think there is 1% PoS inflation per year. Example: If the total supply is 25M then the 1% PoS inflation would be 250k. That’s not how it works. Individual stakeholders can earn 1% on their stake if they engage in minting. However a large percentage of stakeholders don’t mint at all. 250k annual PoS inflation would only be possible if all stakeholders minted with all 25M PPC. That never happens, so annual PoS inflation is considerably less than 250k. This RFC would make it so the full 1% is printed each year, all 250k. It makes PoS inflation more predictable because every year you’ll know that it will be 1% of the total supply and the number of people minting doesn’t affect it. This was my understanding of it. It’s possible I might be incorrect though, which is why I @mentioned Nagalim just in case.(edited)
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 07:50 PM
That makes sense.
It doesnt fundamentally change peercoin SO I support the idea
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 08:00 PM
So total inflation for the year would be PoS inflation (1%) plus PoW inflation (variable) minus deflation from destruction of transaction fees (variable).(edited)
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 08:17 PM
I guess trying to understand how the mining works is not so striaghtforward, it implies that mining will always be around in the current design?
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 08:21 PM
Yes. It was originally planned for PoW mining to be temporary, but we want to keep it now because it helps distribute new PPC further into the hands of people who don’t already own it. This helps create more PoS minters and improves security. Pure PoS cryptos have no way of distributing coins outside the hands of people who already own coins.(edited)
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 08:32 PM
Is their a problem with miners shifting in and out of the network? It looks like inflation got low during the last bullrun and now its around 2.4%, If the price of Bitcoin rises dramatically and sets a new floor to say $20,000 and peercoin is say $10 a coin again, or simply the hashing power rises dramatically on both networks, will that mean the days of 2.4% inflation are over?
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 08:41 PM
You’re aware that PoW inflation decreases when hash power increases right?
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 08:44 PM
Yeah, so if hashpower increases that'll be the end of 2.4% inflation?
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 08:44 PM
I guess, but it depends by how much it increases.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 08:45 PM
Peerchemist more the hashes, less the inflation
Peerchemist simple as that
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 08:45 PM
I just remember reading that the inflation rate is variable,
So inflation is directly proportional to hashing power?
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 08:45 PM
Yes
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 08:45 PM
Peerchemist yes
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 08:46 PM
+ posreward - txfeeburn
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 08:46 PM
Okay cool, I was hoping thats the case, its inevitable that inflation will decrease then
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 08:47 PM
If use of the chain increases, that will help as well.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 08:47 PM
Peerchemist having too low inflation is also a problem
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Irritant 28-Mar-19 08:47 PM
if use increases too much, all coins will be burnt 😛
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Mar-19 08:47 PM
Peerchemist there must be a balance
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 08:51 PM
"having too low inflation is also a problem" Blasphemy says every other crypto! INFLATION IS BAD, BAD I TELLS YA!
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 08:52 PM
We’re not every other crypto. 😀
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 08:57 PM
I kind of think whats the point in Ethereum transitioning to Proof of stake, most of the coins have already been created
and then having a fixed supply, its a strange world out their
I feel like their isnt much discussion on fixed supply vs limited inflation, its such an important topic, I think inflation is necessary
In a good economic model, I mean really Bitcoin held as a currency is completely stupid
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 09:03 PM
“Limited Inflation” is a good way to describe it. People go crazy when you talk about inflation, but adding limited in front of it may help with marketing the idea.
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 09:05 PM
I dont know whether Peercoin will be a top 50 coin again but I beleive if anything it wont be as volatile as other cryptos, thats a sign for a sustainable currency,
Funny how some coins pumped, NXT went to 1.8 billion market cap now at 30,
million
Thats nothing special of course but an older crypto, I dont know much about but uses proof of stake as well
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 09:10 PM
I think the main reason for the price drop over the past 4-5 years is because lack of exchange support and dependence on Sunny King as the core developer as the reason why development fell far behind. The Peercoin Foundation, which is almost a year old, has been helping to change all that. So I imagine things will start improving in the next year or two as we build on the progress we’ve been making.(edited)
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 09:13 PM
My biggest worry is exchanges keeping the markets open, its good to have Bittrex and Poloniex but volumes arent that large, hopefully enough to keep it listed, im not sure about coinegg or hitbtc, never used them but most trading is done on those 2 exchanges
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Sentinelrv 28-Mar-19 09:13 PM
For example we’ve never had contractors doing development until now.
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dirkmirk 28-Mar-19 09:15 PM
I think Cryptopia is going to come back, another minor victory, I think it was sad what happened with BTC-E, then wex, btc-e had a funny reputation but ultimately crashed and burned, who knows what
Funny but true story with BTC-E, I had about $2,600USD on exchange when it went down, when it re-opened I bought the entire amount back with the PPCT(tokens), for about .55, I redeemed the whole lot the year after and safely back in my wallet, talk about playing with fire
Most people got burned who played the token game, I lost about 3 litecoins from that saga, no big deal in hindsight
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HighLow 29-Mar-19 02:51 AM
new tech is comming
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HighLow 29-Mar-19 02:58 AM
ppc will be delisted from 2 major exchanges poloniex and bittrex due to the lack of incompetence and fraud(edited)
the team hopes to maintain it alive on cryptopia ....cryptopia is recovering from the so called "theft"
the lack of volumes on PPC is linked with the bagholders that left behind. and that is why this coin is fraud
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 29-Mar-19 03:36 AM
Peerchemist We keep it listed until we sell out
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Sentinelrv 29-Mar-19 03:59 AM
I’m glad you think there is a LACK of incompetence and fraud. We try our best. 😉
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peerchemist 29-Mar-19 04:02 AM
You are not helping @Sentinelrv
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AquaTron 29-Mar-19 09:30 AM
I think the best thing to do when some one goes low is to go high and fly over there bull shit dont fuel his weak ass
Or IT* dont know what @HighLow is could just be a btce troll
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HighLow 29-Mar-19 09:31 AM
yeah ...go to work guys...as for people don' invest in ppc
you will never see the btc back
you throw away your priceless btc
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Irritant 29-Mar-19 10:34 AM
you know who didn't invest in ppc?
hitler
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 29-Mar-19 10:49 AM
Peerchemist Caligula?
Blanko /p Ada
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dirkmirk 29-Mar-19 08:26 PM
HighLow, do you own crypto what do you hold?
Peercoin is a classic contrarian investment, price is low, activity is low on forums etc no real media presence.
It could well go nowhere I wish I knew the future, I personally think downside risk is small but upside is massive, if we can convince people of the Peercoin story of its design and importance in the history of cryptocurrency it wont take much to budge the price.
If it goes to 10c great, I'be buying thousands per week until the price goes back up again, at 10C it doesnt take many buyers to soak up supply.
This is a definitely not a sheep investment like XRP or ETH, whos more likely to make a 1,000 bagger? PPC or XRP?
IMO Peercoin is like the silver of the precious metals market, Gold is looking bullish in the longer term but the contrarians are going for silver.
Or uranium for something different, its absolutely been flogged and hated for years but from the pits of dispair is how these meteoric rises can happen
People are often only interested in buying something when its going up, ADA is the classic one at the moment, if Peercoin is rising through $30-$40-$50 it will be the same story as litecoin.
ONE thing I wont do is make any guarantees, This could well be a shit investment,
and HighLow is 100% correct
But you have to stand by your convinction and you wont be right all the time
The members of peecoin over the years have never been super moonish, I think this community attracted people who were realistic about currency, Its obviously working for the fixed supply coins but Its a lowest common denominator argument, then Darkcoin/DASH said you needed 1,000 coins for a masternode , another thing is burning the currency like binance coin,
Peercoin has no gimmicks, it has probably hurt the coin But I ultimately believe its the right choice, for a peoples coin anyway
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AquaTron 29-Mar-19 09:48 PM
In 2014 when i was told about this crazy internet coin and it could be mined called Bitcoin. Started looking into mining it and stumbled across Peercoin because it is sha256. Down the rabbit hole i went. Every since then I can say i have been impressed with Sunny King and the past and current Developers and community. Probably one of the oldest alts with the least confrontational community and team members. When issues happen they're on top of it!(edited)
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Irritant 30-Mar-19 04:39 AM
they're
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Mar-19 09:00 AM
Petr Great Suuny!
Petr I wondered if Suuny ever met Nakamoto ...?
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HighLow 02-Apr-19 03:34 AM
again ppc down
btc up
they are selling people's btc and down with ppc
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Cybnate 02-Apr-19 03:58 AM
Did I miss something, BTC and PPC 10% up. Who is buying?
Was it the Camry?
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backpacker 02-Apr-19 04:07 AM
bulltrap
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Cybnate 02-Apr-19 04:20 AM
After the beartraps we had, perhaps. Or springtime finally arrived in Northern Hemisphere?
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HighLow 02-Apr-19 04:51 AM
better stay in btc
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necro 02-Apr-19 06:24 AM
to be in alts now is just dumb and random gamble
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dirkmirk 02-Apr-19 08:43 AM
I reckon bch is a good gamble
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captainbuckkets 02-Apr-19 11:18 AM
Maybe good to be in a BTC short lol
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Apr-19 11:56 AM
Blanko /p btc
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captainbuckkets 02-Apr-19 07:36 PM
<.<
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dirkmirk 02-Apr-19 11:11 PM
Not going to lie this is frustrating, bought another 2,700 coins today so im doing my part lol
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necro 03-Apr-19 12:16 AM
you gonna cry
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Irritant 03-Apr-19 03:29 AM
😢
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 10:11 AM
We'll see I'm 36 got the rest of my life to cry about Peercoin hahaa, it's not always gonna gold
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 10:37 AM
Peerchemist it's important to stay negative ;)
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necro 03-Apr-19 10:58 AM
well, the fact ppc is in downtrend since 2014 vs btc is enough for negativity
buying it just because of it is dumb
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:02 AM
Peerchemist So why don't you pump it
Peerchemist If you care so much
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necro 03-Apr-19 11:02 AM
old coins that didn't moon somehow like eth/ltc/xrp are just bag holders
so says i care?:>
i'm just stating the obvious to delusional ppl:)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:04 AM
Peerchemist Where do you see delusional people?
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necro 03-Apr-19 11:04 AM
[5:11 AM] dirkmirk: Not going to lie this is frustrating, bought another 2,700 coins today so im doing my part lol
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:06 AM
Peerchemist Let the guy speculate if he wants to
Peerchemist Peercoin is indeed cheap against Bitcoin, that's obvious
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:06 AM
14 million market cap, how much downside do you reckon their is Necro?
The way bitcoin cash and Cardano crashed would be like Peercoin dropping to 20/25 cents,
The last bubble peercoin went to $10 back to 50 odd cents, 1/20th the value
ADA/BCH crashed to around 1/40th
I'm a glass half full kind of guy hahaha
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:09 AM
Peerchemist Peercoin just had its Mt gox moment
Peerchemist Who knows what happens next
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:11 AM
Nah I don't see it that way, pretty much everything dropped 90% or close to it,
If not more
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:11 AM
Peerchemist Wex was our mt gox(edited)
Peerchemist That's what I'm saying
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:11 AM
Alright that's fair enough, it was a blow for sure
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:12 AM
Peerchemist Biggest blow I remember
Peerchemist Price wise, they have halved the price
Peerchemist Then the crypto bubble collapsed
Peerchemist I'm surprised any of you speculators are around after all of that
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:13 AM
Im a little concerned about the mining of Peercoin and the inflation rate/reward to miners, I haven't delved into how ot works exactly, what I'm saying is what's to stop the inflation increasing from 2.5% to 5% or 10%?
If Peercoin keeps dropping in dollar terms we'll have a double whammy with increasd supply?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:14 AM
Peerchemist Yes we will
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:14 AM
That would take guys to keep buying if the coin looks dead if the price keeps dropping and miners keep dumping
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Irritant 03-Apr-19 11:14 AM
difficulty will drop until it is profitable to mine
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:15 AM
Would take guys
Ahh.. GUTS
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Irritant 03-Apr-19 11:16 AM
blockreward goes up when difficulty goes down
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:16 AM
Peerchemist Basically look at history, whatever is to happen has already happened multiple times
Peerchemist We had bear periods before
Peerchemist Inflation is always steadily decreasing
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:20 AM
Yeah just saw the Peercoin explorer website the trend is definitely down, only recently the inflation has crept back up
I suppose on the plus side, as long as Bitcoin is successful in dollar terms mining hardware will keep becoming more powerful and more or less flow into the Peercoin network as it has, I presume the difficulty or hashpower algorithm was designed back in 2012 and we had no idea how much hashpower would be thrown at Bitcoin or peerxoin
Surely alot more than anticipated
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Irritant 03-Apr-19 11:23 AM
idk if satoshi anticipated asics, some say he did, some say he didnt(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:23 AM
Peerchemist As soon as the price downtrend turn, hashrate will skyrocket and inflation will fall
Peerchemist It's always the same
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:37 AM
Is their a group of elders that discuss Peercoin/ strategies going forward or these discussions kind of dead like these discussion boards?
Feels like theirs not much discussion going on
Unless I'm not privy or looking in the wrong places
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captainbuckkets 03-Apr-19 11:41 AM
Talk.peercoin.net has more formal discussions. Everything in cycles
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 11:45 AM
Peerchemist There is a lot of non public discussion
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 11:49 AM
Is their a group of elders that discuss Peercoin/ strategies going forward or these discussions
yes
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:50 AM
Haha cheers good to know
Feels like Peercoin is always going to be a laggard when it comes to price action, it does pump but it's not at the starting line like LTC/BCH/ETH/etc
Peercoin pumps later
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 11:54 AM
it's like that because it does not have a market maker to peg it against the overall market
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:54 AM
Yeah true that, are LTC markets still a thing?
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 11:55 AM
how do you mean "LTC markets"?
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 11:57 AM
Is that what you meant? Back in the day on cryptsy for example, the "good coins" had a BTC market and the shitcoins were relegated to LTC pairing, I remember mooncoin being paid to LTC
I've heard that XRP pairing is becoming a thing
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 11:57 AM
meh I dont think Litecoin is taken seriously by anyone
it's just a companion token for Bitcoin
it's dead development wise since 2012
only non bitcoin token which got established as base token is ethereum
binance is now starting with xrp
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 12:03 PM
Id be lying to say I'm not a little dissapointed in humanity, to think Peercoin was a contender alongside Litecoin and here we are 4 years later, Litecoin is still up their and peercoin languishing in the 200s ranking wise, I thought POS was the innovation and not a different algorithm will an unimaginative 4 times increae in token supply over Bitcoin
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 12:03 PM
crypto valuation is not attached to any fundamental reasons
without market maker Peercoin is destined to lag behind the pumps
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 12:03 PM
On that I do agree
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 12:04 PM
if Peercoin had massive whales like Litecoin, who are willing to push the price up at critical moments - than Peercoin valuation would be significantly bigger
but Peercoin has never attracted the shady types I guess, so native population of whales is not into those kind of games
in crypto it's basically - "fake it until you make it"
it's important for speculators around here to understand that whatever we devs do does not matter one bit for the price. We can cure cancer and invent pertpetum mobile - and still the market wont be able to attach some price tag to it(edited)
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 12:10 PM
Total agreement their, crypto is just a popularity contest at the end of the day,
Like a religion, my favourite saying how I try to explain what gives value to Bitcoin or crypto in general to people
"Crypto is a belief system like religion ", that's how I think of it, look at Tron classic example
Or XRP
Pretty much any crypto
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 12:14 PM
anyway if you want to be a speculator, do it properly. Buy the bottoms, sell the tops. Create liquidity. Shill your bags.
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 12:17 PM
No, you buy XRP for $3.50 and tell everyone it's going to be $587 a coin lol
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 12:18 PM
let not make fun of disabled people
😤 2
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 12:52 PM
I think price pridections are silly,
I think their should be a minimum and maximum price prediction to add balance
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captainbuckkets 03-Apr-19 01:00 PM
Theres generally a single price range for assets that they will hit though
Just depends on the cycle
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 01:34 PM
Does anyone understand the primecoin market? I can't get my head around it theirs only like coinegg and poloenix that trade it,
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captainbuckkets 03-Apr-19 01:35 PM
Nope. Peercoin only here
Most likely same dynamics all other markets are bound by
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-Apr-19 01:39 PM
Peerchemist Primecoin is a dead coin since 2014 though
Peerchemist No updates since
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swiftyswiftyPPC 03-Apr-19 05:14 PM
wen binance listing? 😅
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 05:15 PM
when half life 3?
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dirkmirk 03-Apr-19 05:20 PM
I dont know much about Binance but noticed they have a market for Bitcoin Diamond, so they must deal in shit
As well as the good coins
No good reason to not have Peercoin!~
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peerchemist 03-Apr-19 05:25 PM
binance was never contacted
so we have no idea how do they think
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Irritant 03-Apr-19 06:26 PM
or if
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CK 03-Apr-19 07:25 PM
8 btc volume today on polo
quite the increase from previous weeks
like 8x the increase lol
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captainbuckkets 04-Apr-19 12:30 PM
🤔
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necro 05-Apr-19 12:34 PM
volume is as ded as wex
nvc/nmc/ppc were pumped and alive just because of that exchange
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Apr-19 12:35 PM
Peerchemist Lol
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necro 05-Apr-19 12:36 PM
now when another bull trend occures in crypto, I doubt ppc will be in it as much as before
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Apr-19 12:39 PM
Peerchemist Ppc will stay at 12k Satoshi for ever
Peerchemist 😁
Peerchemist Dude everyone knows wex teared you a new one and you are salty. I can troll you around for ever though(edited)
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necro 05-Apr-19 01:54 PM
wouldn't agree on ~10k sat because every year its lower -_-
i wouldn't care more about ppc, i have like 5% of all investments in it
*couldn't
luckily sold on wex and didn't went into tokens
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Sentinelrv 05-Apr-19 02:14 PM
I’m basically 100%. Call me crazy. 🤪
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Apr-19 02:27 PM
Peerchemist Having crypto other than peercoin makes no sense to me
Peerchemist I buy stocks and real estate if needed rather than gambling on shitcoins
Peerchemist Crypto gamblers are funny bunch, I never see them contributing to make their investments worth more. They just do it as a slot machine and then blame the 'coin' for their misfortune
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captainbuckkets 05-Apr-19 02:29 PM
At least people who buy stuff like Home Depot shop there
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dirkmirk 05-Apr-19 07:47 PM
I know this is a peercoin forum but WTF with primecoin!
Lows of 10c now at 30c, I dont understand why someone would buy XPM over PPC,
IT will probably pump and take over Peercoin marketcap again,
Peercoin has never got out of 2nd gear.
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captainbuckkets 05-Apr-19 07:49 PM
Probably
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dirkmirk 05-Apr-19 07:54 PM
Just having a look at a couple of things, hard to believe Peercoin was ranked 33 just 2 years agoi
So 24 million coins, 4% inflation, 960,000 coins P.A, 2,630 per day at 82 cents = $2,160 per day to soak up all new supply if dumped on market
thats 2 years ago
Today, 25,300,000 coins, 2,.5% inflation, 632,000 coins P.A, 1,732 coins per day at 60 cents = $1,022 per day
Only need half the money to keep price stable, another way to think of it, if we look at money from miners and if People staking PPC hoard it and dont sell
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captainbuckkets 05-Apr-19 07:59 PM
yeah crazy huh
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dirkmirk 05-Apr-19 08:00 PM
Mining reward
2017 - 720,000 coins PA, 1,972 coins per day @ 82 cents = $1,617, safe to assume most coins were sold on market, this is income from mining.
2019 - 379,500 coins PA, 1,040 coins per day @ 60 cents = $624,
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captainbuckkets 05-Apr-19 08:03 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Buy em up then
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dirkmirk 05-Apr-19 08:03 PM
If peercoin is being dumped from miners we only need about $600 to keep the price level, its impossible to know what holders are doing but I use supply from miners to guage what sort of money needs to flow into a cryptocurrency as a minimum
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captainbuckkets 05-Apr-19 08:03 PM
I don't really watch the market :)
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dirkmirk 05-Apr-19 08:04 PM
Bitcoin needs 9 million per day
1,800 X $5,000
Just throwing some thoughts out their
Glass half full, if we can go from 4% inflation ranked 33 to 2.4% inflation ranked 246,
The trend is obivously lower despite where PPC ranks, its all to do with mining power
As long as the price doesnt really tank, we should be okay
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captainbuckkets 05-Apr-19 08:21 PM
Yeah but not all miners sell
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captainbuckkets 05-Apr-19 08:36 PM
A number of them can't buy into a market because it's relatively illiquid so they must mine at a loss just to get a % of the supply
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necro 09-Apr-19 06:59 AM
there are no buyers 😃
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Apr-19 08:07 AM
Billionaire no news - no buyers)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Apr-19 08:17 AM
Peerchemist why dont you generate news?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Apr-19 08:35 AM
Billionaire fake ones?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Apr-19 09:16 AM
Peerchemist no, real
Peerchemist there is plenty of material to share
Billionaire like what? Hard to post on twitter? I can hire a worker for this easy ... copy paste not a hard job lol
Peerchemist you do make a point
Peerchemist I'll have a serious converstation with dude who is already paid to post on the twitter
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Apr-19 09:47 AM
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dirkmirk 09-Apr-19 10:06 AM
What are you talking about Necro? Im buying all the time haha
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Apr-19 10:19 AM
Billionaire Me 2
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Sentinelrv 09-Apr-19 12:10 PM
I’ll continue buying as long as it’s below $1.
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SchRekt 11-Apr-19 05:16 AM
Now that Binance has the bulk of volume of alt trade , it would be good if we could get listed there. im not sure if it is a voting system, or palms need to be greased. Ill take a look.
binance.com/userCenter/coinApply.html
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Apr-19 10:14 AM
Blanko /p Ada
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didarmetu 15-Apr-19 11:50 AM
there is 100% profit
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Cybnate 24-Apr-19 05:39 AM
Quote"news today: "Following BNB, many coins in the top twenty by market cap shed around 8 percent of their USD value, with only Monero managing to avoid the selling pressure." PPC is not any better. Bit messy today, after Easter dip?
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dirkmirk 24-Apr-19 05:57 AM
Bitcoin seems to be holding up
Relatively
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Irritant 25-Apr-19 01:44 PM
PPC up 1.5% hypers
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captainbuckkets 25-Apr-19 01:58 PM
hypers
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mperkins 25-Apr-19 04:30 PM
Don't trade peercoin, hold it !
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AquaTron 26-Apr-19 12:04 AM
Stake it? Mint It? what ever you want to call it do it
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necro 26-Apr-19 12:38 AM
nah, fact is you can't trade it because its only going down:>
and by minting 50% of transactions wont be confirmed
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captainbuckkets 26-Apr-19 12:53 AM
where did you get that statistic
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dirkmirk 26-Apr-19 05:29 AM
One coin I was semi interested in was PIVX more like the DASH model with masternodes but has dumped hard lately and dropping down the rankings, max price was Round $14.50 now just above 60 cents, I guess what I'm saying is don't go for the imitators at the end of the day coins will always come and go and Peercoin has its place in history of cryptl
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Sentinelrv 26-Apr-19 07:59 AM
I agree. Imitators are more likely to be abandoned once the price stops pumping. Peercoin on the other hand has a dedicated group of volunteer team members that maintain and develop for the blockchain regardless of the price. I think you’re less likely to find true believers like that in a copy/paste technology.
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Peter 26-Apr-19 10:08 AM
@dirkmirk PIVX was pumped and manipulated hard during first pumps in march 2017
top 20 coin back then - due to manipulation
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captainbuckkets 26-Apr-19 11:57 AM
Price is irrelevant if development or anything else. Same as stock market
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Peter 26-Apr-19 12:24 PM
yeah
manipulation works best
although pivx back then pumped on some news
i think it was a switch to pos
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captainbuckkets 26-Apr-19 12:28 PM
But nobody cares. It must be the development
Like how LTC changed one line of BTC and created millions of parallel value.
That must be what gave it valuation
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Peter 26-Apr-19 12:39 PM
@peerchemist will tell what gave ltc value 😂
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necro 26-Apr-19 12:40 PM
u just all jelly
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Peter 26-Apr-19 12:40 PM
Wex was manipulating it, and it was listed on the biggest number of exchanges - mainly this gave support(edited)
if exchanges would support ppc it would be different today(edited)
Like if it would be almost as widely supported as LTC, and possible to buy with fiat in most countries, I guess it would be top 10-20(edited)
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mperkins 29-Apr-19 05:24 PM
@Sentinelrv the fact that Peercoin is here since 2012 make it somehow more trustable than coins that I have been created not so long ago. I don't really know why it is not so much popular. But I think thats a good thing that Ledger make it available on their hardware wallet, this is how people will discover it.
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Irritant 29-Apr-19 06:51 PM
Cryptocurrencies: 2143 • Markets: 18046 • Market Cap: $167,972,038,774 • 24h Vol: $43,257,758,824 • BTC Dominance: 55.0%
that 24h volume must be so fake
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danny kane 29-Apr-19 09:59 PM
Peercoin should already be on coinbase and Binance, they are not respecting the original cryptos!
Grab your pitchforks! lol
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Peter 30-Apr-19 01:34 AM
@Irritant cmc is having bigger vol than when you wouldsummed it up from their exchange page - I checked it 😂. And wash-trading is another aspect.(edited)
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Irritant 01-May-19 05:07 PM
ATL
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Cybnate 02-May-19 04:49 AM
😭
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Irritant 02-May-19 04:38 PM
TIL Karpales uses 20% to 30% of his brain capacity to decide where he puts his hands
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captainbuckkets 02-May-19 04:46 PM
lmfao
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roadcrypto 03-May-19 02:38 PM
@danny kane I heard a few things about Binance that set off some red flags. I hear there was some drama with digibyte - another utxo community coin that's active... and why the frik don't they have doge?
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peerchemist 03-May-19 02:39 PM
binance does not just list coins, they wait for them to apply
doge does not have any sort of formal organization so they cant apply
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 03-May-19 02:52 PM
Mike They can’t squeeze money out of doge
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peerchemist 03-May-19 02:52 PM
precisely
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roadcrypto 03-May-19 05:08 PM
i'm pretty sure there's been coins listed without them applying
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captainbuckkets 03-May-19 05:12 PM
Us
On many exchanges
Most places just message me to tell me they have us listed and wish for a social media shoutout
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Cybnate 03-May-19 08:17 PM
Who is pegging PPC at around US$0.50? Miners?Whales? Or inflationary model of around 3/3.5%?
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dirkmirk 03-May-19 11:41 PM
Last 7 days inflation down to 2.12%, was sitting around 2.5% so maybe its on the movie
move
down
I dont know whats going on with the price, people just arent buying it, I bought 2,700 coins on bittrex for 58 cents in a few minutes and the sell orders just got fatter,
I plan to have a shitload of peercoins but theirs been no upside lets be honest, every purchase has lost money
Bought into BCH and BTC a few days ago and into profit, My gut says these coins will pump and peercoin will stagnate, doesnt change my plans to get DUMP BTC/BCH and buy peercoin though, it doesnt sound logical when peercoin is so cheap but to acquire the most coins I think its a better way to do it to profit off other coins.
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mperkins 03-May-19 11:55 PM
my feeling is that you should trade a coin by the idea it leads not by the price market it makes. If you want to contribute to it because you believe in it that great otherwise you better move on to another coin that is maybe more popular today but will maybe deprecated tomorrow.
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necro 04-May-19 02:13 AM
lets say you can't go wrong with buying xrp instead of ppc. almost same price, but with ppc is more likely to get shit faced
so buying popular coins instead of ppc is better move -_-
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dirkmirk 04-May-19 08:12 AM
I can see a clear floor with the price of peercoin, it might be 20 cents it could be 15 cents, I would scoop up as many as I could for that price
As for XRP...... With a 13 billion market cap if it falls out of favour it could easily go under 3 cents and still be valued over a billion dollars
Not to mention if Ripple tries to sell off another 40 billion XRP less than a cent is not out of the question.
Downside for XRP is like 95%+ drop, Peercoin I reckon perhaps 2/3rds or 66% drop( to 17 cents).
Peercoin would have a market cap of 4 million at 17 cents, considering the history and it's the best design of "digital gold", I would buy $500 a week and bot bat an eyelid
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Peter 04-May-19 08:18 AM
@Cybnate inflationary model can't peg coin :D. It can be done by some individuals, tho I don't know who exactly. Could be miners.
@dirkmirk - you don't see one thing - liquidity is huge for XRP, and for now minimal for PPC. I hope for the best, but you can't compare both, even if XRP is in reality premined shitcoin.
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dirkmirk 04-May-19 08:36 AM
We'll put it this way, what would a million dollars buying pressure do for Peercoin vs XRP?
Nothing for XRP, explosion for Peercoin, if sometime is determined to buy ppc and lots of it, it won't take much to shift the price, Peercoin needs marketing, it works and has history, this whole crypto thing is like a religion or belief system
So the potential is their, I see it as a huge reward, small risk to the downside at 50 cents but I think it will underperform the market in another bullrun,
I don't Believe Peercoin has ever truly run, historically what's it been 20c-$10 a 50X trading range , I don't believe it will never have it's turn for 500X returns so to speak, these bullruns when they occur are like an unstoppable jaggernaut that feeds on itself and success
I believe in the narrative of Peercoin, despite where it's at in 2019,
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Peter 04-May-19 08:59 AM
Of course it would explode, especially if it was pumped with market buys. It's the nature of illiquid assets - they explode in value at first with such buying power.(edited)
Even for XRP, if it was one market buy it would also mean a one nice wick. People really doesn't seem to know, how these markets are illiquid. There is one good site that can present it: https://vcdepth.io/ - turn on neareast 1% or 10% - you would see how little is needed to explode or dump markets.(edited)
A view into crypto-asset global market depth with real-time open interest, books, liquidity & arbitration opportunities.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 04-May-19 09:03 AM
Peerchemist wicks work both ways
Peerchemist even medium dump can collapse the market like 30%
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Peter 04-May-19 09:04 AM
Yep, both to pump or dump markets, it's really easy.
And in 2015-2016, I would like to see books... It would have to be super easy, which is why some people used it. As I saw Ripple had like 200M cap back then and poloniex, which was the biggest exchange for it (besides "Ripple gateways" whatever that was), was having like 10-100K USD max vol 24h on XRP/BTC pair. Books probably contained like 50K USD or less.(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 04-May-19 09:08 AM
Peerchemist if people would just sell obvious pumps and buy obvious dumps market would eventually stabilize by nature
Peerchemist however people buy the pumps and sell the dumps
Peerchemist making it easier for manipulators
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:09 PM
anyone trading on topia anymore? there was a bit of a dump if anyone wants to risk putting btc there
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:13 PM
Didn't know it was open again
I stick to Polo/Trex
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:18 PM
you can withdraw btc, doge and possibly other currencies
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:18 PM
Fool me once
After WEX, I trust nothing
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:19 PM
i don't trust exchanges in general
gotta use em though
i had just sold some loki a few days before the whole thing. i usually don't keep much on exchanges, but i did get pinched this time
didn't lose too much though
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Peter 06-May-19 06:20 PM
i said that there was a dump on topia, too late now back to normal
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:20 PM
mmmm
Im just waiting for the cycle to finish
Very close to bottom as predicted
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:21 PM
* deleted screenshot * ¯\_(ツ)_/¯(edited)
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:21 PM
sick snipe
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:21 PM
i still wouldn't be surprised to see it drop to that price..
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:21 PM
I would be
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Irritant 06-May-19 06:21 PM
im holding the chart upside down since a while
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:22 PM
Its held its USD value which is really all that matters
Its been increasing/holding around 50c which is fantastic
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:22 PM
i don't trade to usd.. especially not alts
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Peter 06-May-19 06:22 PM
Still I'm somehow amazed that anyone trades there on this shitcoin exchange. Tho there seems that still the biggest "liquidity" have bitfinex, evrn with bankrun, nothin will amaze me
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:22 PM
You should
Everything outperforms in USD
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:22 PM
lol, i shoulda DAIed at the top
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:22 PM
Even if you want more BTC, trade alts to USD and USD to BTC
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:23 PM
@Peter I'm surprised YoBit is still alive
i have a trading friend that like to USD... it's not for me, man
this guy got a good deal:
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:24 PM
I mean its a bad deal if you straight up hate money
Which I guess maybe is possible
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:24 PM
sure.. but not in the sense i throw it away
it depends on your style..
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:25 PM
Im telling you though that from significant historical backtesting and study that alts outperform in USD every time
What style? Hating money?
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:25 PM
if something isn't gonna go up in value amongst other coins and against btc.. not worth my time
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:25 PM
Trading for USD doesn't stop your ability to get more BTC if thats your goal
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Peter 06-May-19 06:25 PM
yobit is dead xd. It's imo so manipulated, almost btc-e like.
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:25 PM
I don't care that much to hold BTC
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:26 PM
lol, i don't care that much to hold usd
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:26 PM
Too many things outperform it in USD
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:26 PM
glad it works for you..
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:26 PM
Just trying to pass on wise advice
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:26 PM
10 ppc says you live in a city.
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:26 PM
I used to think USD trading was stupid
okay ill take 10 free PPC
lmfao
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:26 PM
damnit 😂
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:26 PM
My living situation has nothing to do with me liking more money
Nor the fact that USD pairs outperform BTC pairs every time
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Irritant 06-May-19 06:27 PM
i will not reveal your living situation
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:27 PM
So you just take the USD you just made that outperformed by 2-3% and go buy 2-3% more BTC
@Irritant mine lol?
I live in a log cabin dont @ me
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Irritant 06-May-19 06:27 PM
xD
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:27 PM
In the middle of the desert with nobody around in sight
And have a big sniper tower for those who come for my PPC
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Irritant 06-May-19 06:28 PM
recently moved out of eh underneath some desk
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:28 PM
More like off the streets
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Peter 06-May-19 06:29 PM
BTC trading is ok, if you assume that crypto is a closed system, and that it only trades around alts-btc, btc-alts. Which is like 90%+ trading, so that's why later bear cycles are so brutal. Too small (fiat) window for all to exit xd.(edited)
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:30 PM
you can tell your dogs roadypoo owes them a steak (the 10 ppc)
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:30 PM
gib
I know how rare PPC is. Would never pass up even dust
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:30 PM
i'll send em if you want em..
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:31 PM
Nah its okay ;)
I have enough, just pulling your leg more or less
I have noticed PPC looking more liquid lately
Less wicky
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:31 PM
i don't think the 2, 3% is worth the extra stress. my brain thinks in btc and then btc to the usd
then usd to useless cad
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:31 PM
oof
CAD
sorry fam
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:32 PM
peercoinhypers
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Peter 06-May-19 06:32 PM
cad isnt bad
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:32 PM
😂
cad isn't bad?
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:32 PM
They dont have a penny
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Peter 06-May-19 06:32 PM
pln is shit
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:32 PM
what do you mean it isnt that bad
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:32 PM
what about dem new gaybucks?
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:32 PM
Yeah also that
was gonna say
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Peter 06-May-19 06:32 PM
it's da shit.
😂
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:33 PM
Just leave money alone
REEEEEEE
It doesn't need intervention
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:33 PM
🤡 🌎
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:33 PM
yes
honk honk
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Peter 06-May-19 06:35 PM
usd is actually now strong, gold and eur, jpy are crying rather
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:35 PM
we sold off the last of our gold reserves...
i'm pretty sure they are dumping canada to buy it all up on the dip (when everyone is bankrupt)
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Peter 06-May-19 06:36 PM
shorting cad?
you mean?
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:36 PM
sure
if you look at everything that's been happening, but this isn't pol, so... 🏃
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Peter 06-May-19 06:37 PM
you are in the basket with Aussies and pegged to oil, that's why cad isnt so strong. And interest rates lower than US
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:38 PM
trading alts to cad would just confuse the fuck out of me... trade to btc, buy some cash on btc peak
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Peter 06-May-19 06:38 PM
when oil to 100$, cad will be 1:1 with usd.
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:38 PM
lol
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Peter 06-May-19 06:38 PM
😁
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:38 PM
i'm trying to not get into it here too much...
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:38 PM
@roadcrypto i like you(edited)
you seem woke
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:38 PM
but they basically fucked the oil sector
and we had to sell it for half price to the US
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:39 PM
unfortunately, yes is pub server with rules so you can dance around ideas a bit
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:39 PM
"woke" fu 😂
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:39 PM
but since im the moderator, do as you please
I wanna know about this oil sector stuff
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:39 PM
well, Alberta just turned blue - that's conservative up here.
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:39 PM
Have to use "woke" semi ironically btw but it serves its purpose
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:39 PM
they were run by socialists that were letting ngo's cockblock the oil (no pipelines)
so, alberta couldn't get their oil to market and had (has) to sell it to the states at half price, so they can double their moneyz...
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:41 PM
Wow
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:41 PM
meanwhile, Trudeau is bitching about a few hundred jobs over a coruption scandal (SNC) - but a whole shitload of albertans are out of work
it basically killed the province
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:41 PM
That’s not reported on at all here
Not even on Drudge
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:42 PM
the socialist NDP are happy at creating a welfare economy where men are killing themselves and taking anti-depressant at record rates
because working men are toxic men.. and according to Trudeau, present a danger to communities when they go out to work
now, slip in some transgender agenda in there that takes away parents rights to decide if their KIDS should get hormone injections and some compelled speech laws...
don't get me started on the welcoming back terrorists
A podcast about counterterrorism, islamic extremism, freedom of speech and the global intelligence community.
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:44 PM
Can we trade Canada to another country
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:44 PM
things are pretty fucked up here right now.. americans should be paying attention
heard of Omar Khadr?
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:46 PM
Nope
I was following for a long time until they removed Faith Goldy from every platform of speech and she kinda went off the rails
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:46 PM
we give terrorists 11 mil but our vets have to fight the gov't in court, people can't get prostethic limbs...
Layne Morris, a retired special forces sergeant who was blinded in one eye during the 2002 firefight involving Omar Khadr, expresses frustration with Canada'...
the settlement was leaked - the public wasn't supposed to know
you've heard of the SNC scandal?
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:48 PM
Nope
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:48 PM
that all ties into the oil and paying off canadian-owned companies working in the middle east
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Peter 06-May-19 06:48 PM
Which terrorists?
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:48 PM
you can't call them that anymore, they are "returning fighters"
we hand out citizenships like hotcakes too
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:49 PM
An awakening is coming
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:49 PM
SNC got offered a "deferred prosecution agreement" - after lobying the gov't for it - after they broke the law. this DPA would have let them pay off a fine and just keep doing business, but it's all sketchy backroom deals and stuff
we have people in the House of Commons who were supposed to be impartial taking sides..
then Jodie Wilson Reybould came out and said she was pressured into agreeing with the DPA
didn't hear of her?
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Peter 06-May-19 06:50 PM
So you meant immigrants from like Arabic countries or sth different?
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:50 PM
no, actual terrorists
check out the quiggin report
he's a court-recognized expert on terrorism
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Peter 06-May-19 06:51 PM
and they are canadians?
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:51 PM
yes, once they get here...
like Omar..
he was in Guantanamo bay and we went and got him and gave him 11mil
and a citizenship
now he's buying malls in alberta
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Irritant 06-May-19 06:52 PM
o_O
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:52 PM
and going on mainstream news on easter sunday
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Irritant 06-May-19 06:52 PM
he could pamp ppc
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:52 PM
with a huge smile
dis guy
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:52 PM
lol you cant even drop a mil into PPC without a huge jump
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Peter 06-May-19 06:52 PM
And when did it start?
@captainbuckkets it's normal for low capped coins
liquidity is non existent
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:53 PM
did you just make me rant for nothin'?
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:53 PM
No lol im listening
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:53 PM
i'm done 😐
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:53 PM
Why did he get the 11mil though?(edited)
I dont understand that part
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:54 PM
because "torture" (the lights were left on)
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:54 PM
Oof
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Irritant 06-May-19 06:54 PM
canadian dollars are not worth that much are they
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:54 PM
about 1.35 lately
that's bad
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Peter 06-May-19 06:54 PM
In Guantanamo were canadians, I thought it was US operation
?
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:54 PM
Joint if I had to guess
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:54 PM
he threw a grenade at US soldiers..
we're taking in these people - we go out and find them and say: welcome! we hate Trump!
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Peter 06-May-19 06:55 PM
lul
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:55 PM
dude
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Peter 06-May-19 06:55 PM
that's bad
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:55 PM
Is there video of him throwing the grenade?
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:55 PM
not that I'm a Trump fan... but after you do some digging and find out what the opposition is
i posted the Layne Morris video
watch that
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:56 PM
Yeah definitely made me change some views...
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:56 PM
basically, Trudeau is in bed with Clinton / Soros and all that scum
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:56 PM
Been known
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:57 PM
crashing the dollar, destroying society, this is fine 🔥
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Peter 06-May-19 06:58 PM
*cad dollar
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:58 PM
yes
thank you. 😐
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Peter 06-May-19 06:58 PM
it's not a crash
find out usdpln chart
that's xddd
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:58 PM
I havent followed gas but I knowits almost gone up 50% in the last month locally
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Peter 06-May-19 06:58 PM
from 2 to 3.83 in 10 y
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:58 PM
gas as in oil barrels?
not neo-gas
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:59 PM
As in local price so whatever that is
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 06:59 PM
in Vancouver, the litre is gonna be as expensive as a gallon 😂(edited)
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 06:59 PM
oof
no thanks
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Peter 06-May-19 07:02 PM
Canada has much higher tax on gasoline then US?
It's the same in EU. Litre cost 1.25-1.7eur in different countries.(edited)
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 07:08 PM
we got the 2nd largest oil reserves or something...
anti-pipeline but let's buy it from the saudis and dump sewage into the st-lawrence
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Peter 06-May-19 07:09 PM
See Norway. They have higher gas price then whole EU lol. I dont know too much welfare, too many taxes?
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teek 06-May-19 07:21 PM
am canadian
this summer is going to hurt re: gas prices
FML
1.50$ for premium and its not even hot out yet
generally in july it goes ape
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captainbuckkets 06-May-19 07:22 PM
Its like 3.50 here
I dont want to leave the house
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Peter 06-May-19 07:23 PM
but 1 gal is like 3 litres?
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teek 06-May-19 07:23 PM
4 litres
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Peter 06-May-19 07:23 PM
nice
20% cheaper than in Poland, you should be happy 😁
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teek 06-May-19 07:24 PM
gas is as high now as it was when oil was over $100 usd
what a scam
yeah EU gas is expensive as hell from what i know
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Peter 06-May-19 07:25 PM
Because usd is stronger, it's the same in EU.
1.25 eur for litre 95
and it's the cheapeast in EU usually it's around 1.5-1.6
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roadcrypto 06-May-19 09:36 PM
@captainbuckkets
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Nohea 07-May-19 05:11 PM
deal with it. take it up with the Saudis, they are dumping oil.
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dirkmirk 08-May-19 09:25 AM
Anyone know what happened to the trading volume of primecoin? 24 hours coinmarketcap says $4,500 it has typically been similar to peercoin at around $200,000
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peerchemist 08-May-19 09:46 AM
why should it have more?
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dirkmirk 08-May-19 09:52 AM
2 or 3 days ago the trading was like 40-50X higher,
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peerchemist 08-May-19 09:52 AM
where do you check that data?
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dirkmirk 08-May-19 09:53 AM
Just wandering if anyone knows why, BTW I dont see the point of primecoin but its kind of related to Peercoin from the same developer
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peerchemist 08-May-19 09:53 AM
my guess CMC (where I guess you look) removed some wash trading exchange from the calculation
so real volume is shown
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dirkmirk 08-May-19 09:53 AM
If you run the cursor over the past week or so you see the volume fall off a cliff
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peerchemist 08-May-19 09:56 AM
see above for the explanation
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Irritant 08-May-19 05:27 PM
coinegg
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Peter 10-May-19 03:09 PM
Paprika better 😂(edited)
Peercoin Price Chart | Market Capitalization | News | Description | Team | Related Events | Community | Similar coins | Comments
But seriously cmc is so lagging with new redesign on mobile...(edited)
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dirkmirk 11-May-19 02:03 AM
Is coineg a dodgy exchange? Showing 56 cents a coin vs 47 cents everywhere else, will be interesting to see if it drags up the price for all other exchanges
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Cybnate 11-May-19 02:28 AM
BTC buy panic trading over $6,850 on most exchanges
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Peter 11-May-19 05:14 AM
Coinwgg is wash-trading exchange...
to big spread there
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SchRekt 11-May-19 07:38 AM
polo delisting PPC 😦
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SchRekt 11-May-19 07:53 AM
reached out to support , anyone else able to do the same? we need polo
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SchRekt 11-May-19 08:07 AM
@Poloniex @PeercoinNews @peerchemist @PeercoinPPC @Sentinelrv @embeddedthought Show some $PPC some love don't Delist us https://t.co/UmoYrzwEQA
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roadcrypto 11-May-19 08:52 PM
best way to get their attention is inside their tweets 😉
The following tokens are available for margin trading with a $BTC base pair for non US customers: $EOS, $ATOM, $XRP, $ETH, $BCHABC, $BCHSV, $ETC, $XMR, $STR, $FCT, $LTC, $BTS, $DOGE, $DASH, $MAID, and $CLAM.
doge, clam?
Poloniex traders - what are your favorite crypto news & chart sources? Answer below👇
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captainbuckkets 11-May-19 08:54 PM
Thats just insult to injury
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roadcrypto 11-May-19 08:54 PM
that one more recent
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captainbuckkets 11-May-19 08:54 PM
CLAM is a fat pnd
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roadcrypto 11-May-19 08:54 PM
i stopped using polo a long time ago
but it had the most ppc volume afaik
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Cybnate 11-May-19 08:56 PM
It used to have, but not recently. Perhaps Poloniex is a dying exchange anyway. Time will tell.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-May-19 09:17 AM
Peerchemist Polo is historically 5th or 6th market for Peercoin
Peerchemist I remember while btc-e was alive, btc-e would do 1M or 2M USD volume a day and poloniex was always topping out at some 50k
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Peter 13-May-19 09:28 AM
In early 2018 it was more
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roadcrypto 15-May-19 01:38 AM
and then rip '
'topia
not going good for PPC 😂
coinegg does "surprise kyc" when you try to withdraw in case someone is thinking of trading there
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Peter 15-May-19 04:20 AM
coinegg is shit
dont trade there, i once do it, it's always set to lose there
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 15-May-19 06:43 AM
pump are we ATL yet
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Irritant 15-May-19 06:56 AM
descending to one thousand feet
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Irritant 16-May-19 06:52 AM
PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY DEPOSITS TO CRYPTOPIA.
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Demindiro 16-May-19 08:29 AM
Yet another exchange who can't get security right?
Tsk
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roadcrypto 16-May-19 12:36 PM
😂 😂 dafuq moron is sending stuff blindly?
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NobFox 17-May-19 04:57 AM
I er.. Goodness.. Seems to be getting hot in here..
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Cybnate 17-May-19 05:46 AM
Hot price to buy Peercoin indeed 😉
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 17-May-19 10:52 AM
Blanko /p pox
Blanko /p ppc
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Irritant 17-May-19 09:09 PM
PPC doing well
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roadcrypto 18-May-19 12:28 AM
might be time to get on crypto-bridge... don't know if that's a good thing though
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Cybnate 18-May-19 04:02 AM
What did I miss? Coinegg?
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captainbuckkets 18-May-19 01:56 PM
$help
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Altpocket BOT 18-May-19 01:56 PM
Ended(edited)
Rank: 1197 Price USD: $0.01456095 Price BTC: 0.00000199 BTC Price ETH: 0.00006148 ETH Market Cap: $45,801.463 24h volume: $24,801.913 Supply: 3,145,499 Change 1h: -2.89% Change 24h: -0.11% Change 7 days: 24.94%
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captainbuckkets 18-May-19 01:56 PM
neat
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backpacker 18-May-19 05:52 PM
$nbt
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captainbuckkets 18-May-19 06:08 PM
It should run off CMC's tags
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backpacker 18-May-19 06:17 PM
$usnbt
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Altpocket BOT 18-May-19 06:17 PM
Ended(edited)
Rank: 861 Price USD: $0.08326149 Price BTC: 0.00001142 BTC Price ETH: 0.00035053 ETH Market Cap: $914,350.023 24h volume: $15,000.278 Supply: 10,981,667.28 Change 1h: 0.43% Change 24h: -7.16% Change 7 days: 14.61%
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backpacker 18-May-19 06:17 PM
$ppc
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Altpocket BOT 18-May-19 06:17 PM
Ended(edited)
Rank: 303 Price USD: $0.41933152 Price BTC: 0.00005749 BTC Price ETH: 0.00176538 ETH Market Cap: $10,634,660.046 24h volume: $157,436.042 Supply: 25,360,983.916 Change 1h: 5.75% Change 24h: 11.63% Change 7 days: -10.20%
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backpacker 18-May-19 06:18 PM
neat
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captainbuckkets 18-May-19 06:22 PM
you can click those emojis for the relevant information as well
⛏ gives mining info
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peerchemist 20-May-19 10:22 AM
I've clicked on a hammer now and nothing happens
$ppc
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ah it needs a fresh pull
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-May-19 10:42 AM
Exe /help@Cryptowhalebot
Exe /alerts@Cryptowhalebot
Exe /p@Cryptowhalebot ppc
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-May-19 02:04 PM
ROMAN:
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Random_guy 20-May-19 03:04 PM
$ppc
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Altpocket BOT 20-May-19 03:04 PM
Ended(edited)
Rank: 314 Price USD: $0.40961319 Price BTC: 0.00005300 BTC Price ETH: 0.00166797 ETH Market Cap: $10,389,066.787 24h volume: $119,508.501 Supply: 25,363,115.586 Change 1h: -0.06% Change 24h: -2.94% Change 7 days: -6.11%
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-May-19 10:53 PM
Sergey /lambo@Cryptowhalebot
Sergey /watch@Cryptowhalebot
Sergey /pro@Cryptowhalebot
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roadcrypto 20-May-19 11:21 PM
we should get on tradeogre
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captainbuckkets 20-May-19 11:45 PM
Looks really illiquid, but I can see whats up with them
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NobFox 21-May-19 10:44 AM
I've used them with no problem.
Crex24 is decent too. I need to shift some shitcoins that are only listed on there. It would be awesome to swap them for PPC.
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roadcrypto 21-May-19 08:13 PM
tradeogre is more liquid than tux 😂
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peerchemist 22-May-19 05:11 AM
has anyone tried bitsane or livecoin?
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Peter 22-May-19 11:59 AM
I think livecoin is strange, and russian (that's good enough reason to stay away from it).
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They have +50% premium on the price of Namecoin
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necro 22-May-19 01:26 PM
it was 'ok' while you had an exchange to sell that crap
now without exchange, forever bagholder
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-May-19 01:27 PM
Peerchemist maybe someone wants to have a namecoin?
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necro 22-May-19 01:27 PM
prolly going to happen to ppc same
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captainbuckkets 22-May-19 01:49 PM
prolly
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-May-19 03:09 PM
C
Reply to @necro prolly going to happen to ppc same
That's a hot take
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 23-May-19 12:35 PM
ROMAN /meme@Cryptowhalebot
ROMAN /meme@Cryptowhalebot
ROMAN /meme@Cryptowhalebot
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captainbuckkets 23-May-19 12:37 PM
sir
I dont think we have that bot(edited)
oh
it doesnt send through :(
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-May-19 10:01 PM
pump why peercoin dump
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captainbuckkets 25-May-19 10:12 PM
More people sell than buy(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-May-19 11:18 PM
Sergey
Reply to ROMAN Ok, no more spam)
Why?
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Demindiro 26-May-19 10:43 AM
I wonder what goes on in people's head to sell when the price is low
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 26-May-19 10:45 AM
Peerchemist statistically most people sell at lows and buy the highs
Peerchemist especially with assets like "crypto" which are both worthless and priceless at the same time
Peerchemist market is bipolar about it, so oscillations are huge
Peerchemist it's quite likely that same trader who sells here will buy back at +100% or higher
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Irritant 27-May-19 07:26 AM
some only look at price in USD
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-May-19 01:45 AM
D_o_N Hi! when will PPC be 10 cents?
D_o_N maybe even then the growth will be...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-May-19 02:25 AM
Peerchemist
Reply to D_o_N Hi! when will PPC be 10 cents?
as early as the next week
D_o_N fine
Shamil patch with price correction is being reviewed
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-May-19 12:52 PM
D_o_N I didn’t wait for 10 cents and just bought PPC, now let's go up👍
D_o_N let me make money
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-May-19 02:04 PM
Mihai
Reply to Shamil patch with price correction is being reviewed
Wasn’t it implemented in last hard fork? Changing the peg from $0.5 to $0.1
Peerchemist That was error
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-May-19 01:14 AM
D_o_N Hello! something is not clear ... stopped PPC trading on the hitbtc exchange? everything is in place
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captainbuckkets 30-May-19 01:18 AM
Its stopped? What do you mean?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-May-19 01:19 AM
Сurrent Peercoin / Tether exchange rate, Real-time market data: buy & sell rate, charts, order book
D_o_N hitbtc.com/exchange/PPC-to-USDT
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captainbuckkets 30-May-19 01:20 AM
Yeah I see it
What about it?
I don't see anything out of the ordinary?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-May-19 01:22 AM
D_o_N half an hour there is no bidding
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captainbuckkets 30-May-19 01:23 AM
Ah, unsure. I haven't used HitBTC before
Perhaps just a pause
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Irritant 30-May-19 01:41 PM
what was that spike @ btc
$9100
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-May-19 01:42 PM
Peerchemist Exit pump
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necro 30-May-19 03:29 PM
btc is done
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-May-19 04:26 PM
Shamil good riddance
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captainbuckkets 30-May-19 05:45 PM
$btc
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-May-19 05:45 PM
Mihai Rekt
Mihai Why can’t I post images here :(
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captainbuckkets 30-May-19 06:07 PM
The spammer bot
It removes images. It needs a trust system of some kind I think
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Jun-19 11:13 AM
misty hi
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Random_guy 05-Jun-19 05:36 PM
too late no ?
the site seem to be a fake...
nothing on the official site....
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Random_guy 05-Jun-19 05:45 PM
i had sent a ticket to Binance
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captainbuckkets 05-Jun-19 06:21 PM
I deleted that. Probably a scam
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 06-Jun-19 06:32 AM
D_o_N Hello! Can you please tell me if anyone is trading on coinegg_com? is it not scammers?
D_o_N I watch a course there PPC which is high, it is alarming
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 06-Jun-19 06:44 AM
Peerchemist It's best to avoid that place
Shamil unless you want to lose your coins to scammers
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 06-Jun-19 07:01 AM
D_o_N thank
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 06-Jun-19 11:28 AM
🍒 Nauris Coinegg creates huge fake volume, why coinmarketcap dont blacklist it...
Peerchemist I dont think it's much different than 90% of exchanges out there
Peerchemist bithumb, okex, huobi...
🍒 Nauris But in these exchanges at least is some liquidity. No one trade on coinegg, cmc shows wrong ppc price because coinegg order book is almost empty
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Peter 08-Jun-19 03:06 AM
use coinpaprika
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Jun-19 12:03 AM
🍒 Nauris
Reply to mmhmm use coinpaprika
Thanks, coinpaprika looks really good, it have very advanced api and for free. Maybe even better than cmc paid api. Looks like it try to filter out fake volume exchanges.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Jun-19 03:21 AM
Mihai
Reply to 🍒 Nauris Thanks, coinpaprika looks really good, it have very advanced api and for free. Maybe even better tha…
Mihai Coinpaprika is great for liquidity identification(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jun-19 05:54 AM
C Up 40%. That Reddit post must have done the trick
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jun-19 06:32 AM
D_o_N oh, something on the stock exchanges trading on peercoin stand still
The Rock Trading has been spotted on #bloomberg! We are honored to join and be part of Bloomberg's #crypto ecosystem. #bitcoin #cryptocurrencies
GaIt The Rock is the oldest ppc trading platform
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jun-19 08:27 AM
Davide
Reply to GaIt The Rock is the oldest ppc trading platform
Are you sure?
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Irritant 20-Jun-19 08:56 AM
irc is older
up 40%? where
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jun-19 09:52 AM
GaIt
Reply to Davide Are you sure?
GaIt The older ones are all well gone, at this days The Rock has become the oldest still operating... even going on Bloomberg. Btw please correct me if am wrong(edited)
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Sentinelrv 20-Jun-19 10:25 AM
Did you guys buy the updated Peercoin history book? It most likely tells you in there. They mention a number of exchanges that added PPC and when.(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jun-19 11:02 AM
C
Reply to @Irritant up 40%? where
Blockfolio might be glitching. It's done it twice today. Sorry if I got your hopes up
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jun-19 11:59 AM
Peerchemist Dont use blockfolio unless you really need it
Peerchemist Like really really
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jun-19 12:44 PM
C Why?
Peerchemist they mine your data and sell it to 3rd parties
Peerchemist that's their business model
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captainbuckkets 20-Jun-19 01:04 PM
Wow the rock made it
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jun-19 01:14 PM
C
Reply to Peerchemist they mine your data and sell it to 3rd parties
Makes sense. Thanks for the heads up
C Are there any portfolio apps that don't?
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roadcrypto 21-Jun-19 11:01 AM
a spreadsheet? since Topia died, I've been using TradeOgre... it's a pretty cheap exchange, and I doubt they'd charge much, if anything at all to get some more volume... it's not a bad lil exchange with a few bots to keep spreads not attrocious
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syzygy 21-Jun-19 11:19 AM
yeah tradeogre is a good exchange. They mostly list cryptonote coins but maybe they would list peercoin.
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Irritant 21-Jun-19 07:31 PM
$10K
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captainbuckkets 21-Jun-19 09:28 PM
Wtf
Mad lads were right
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dirkmirk 22-Jun-19 01:19 AM
Has anyone joined up to coinegg? Thinking of joining and playing around with a few tokens just to test to see if it works, I wouldnt put large amounts of crypto at once on their
That exchange allegedly highest volume for peercoin but doesnt really trend set, Bittrex is lower.
The litecoin market looks right
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 01:22 AM
🍒 Nauris Coinegg fake volume
D_o_N everything grows, one peercoin in place
🍒 Nauris All altcoins dump hard in btc value some even in usd
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 01:43 AM
D_o_N investors lost interest in Peercoin, soon Volume will be 0%
🍒 Nauris In my opinion best time to buy
🍒 Nauris Dont be sheep
🍒 Nauris Dont do what everyone else do and you will be succesfull
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D_o_N Why buy if there is no PPC bidding?
D_o_N I have 20,000 peercoin, so where can I sell so many coins? no one wanting to buy
🍒 Nauris Do you know that most of crypto investors dont care project fundamentals they would be happy to put their money into any scam when they see price pumping and big marketcaps. Most succesful investors are those who buy for very cheap prices very early when when everyone stop believing and panic selling.
🍒 Nauris Put your sell order for price you would be happy to sell and wait
🍒 Nauris If no one buy sell lower
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 01:59 AM
🍒 Nauris I believe in Peercoin I see progress in developement I see how community is willing to move it forward. I dont understand why you invested if you wanna sell now.
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captainbuckkets 22-Jun-19 02:04 AM
I know people who would buy 20k Peercoin ez
If you are serious, we can talk escrow and I can maybe find a buyer
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Cybnate 22-Jun-19 02:20 AM
PPC 10% up, not bad
CMC is a bit erratic, it might just be 5% 😦
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 02:23 AM
🍒 Nauris 2% up
🍒 Nauris Look in coinpaprika
🍒 Nauris CMC dont filter fake volumes CoinPaprika is much better
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dirkmirk 22-Jun-19 02:52 AM
Ironically peercoin at 40 cents might make it one of the best investments....what if was $2 Like it should you could buy 1/5th of the coins
Only buy
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 03:11 AM
D_o_N you need to buy 10 cents 👍, 43 cents is very expensive 👎
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dirkmirk 22-Jun-19 03:17 AM
I can't see it going much below 20 cents but I could be wrong
Even I would be backing the truck up at 20 cents regardless of the rest of the market
I could buy 2,500 coins a week at that price pretty much the entire supply of pos
Interestingly poloneix still has Primecoin listed and trading WTF!
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 04:07 AM
D_o_N
Reply to 🍒 Nauris 2% up
I see -6%
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 05:33 AM
GaIt @Lep_RiKoN sell escrow this thing is not going to make you happy soon, get rid of it and move on, this thing requires balls of Steel
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necro 22-Jun-19 06:58 AM
i suggest investing max 10% of your porfolio into ppc
its not worth it without any new exchanges on the horizon
even on btce/wex was tough to get rid of it, now without volume gonna be even harder
ow, and polo random pumpers
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 07:02 AM
D_o_N yes, it's not possible to get rid of PPC
D_o_N price 37 cents, but no buyers
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 07:26 AM
Shamil how much do you want to sell
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 08:06 AM
D_o_N for 37 cents i'm not going to sell
D_o_N only 45 cents
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 08:29 AM
Shamil how much are you willing to sell at 45c
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 09:11 AM
D_o_N bad news ... XRP overtakes PPC in price
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Demindiro 22-Jun-19 09:19 AM
Oh no
PPC is worthless now
Let's burn our wallets
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roadcrypto 22-Jun-19 10:19 AM
@dirkmirk you ready for suprise KYC?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jun-19 10:21 AM
Petr Il 19% della popolazione mondiale ha già acquistato criptovalute, svela un sondaggio https://it.cointelegraph.com/news/19-of-world-population-bought-crypto-before-2019-kaspersky-report
Stando ad un sondaggio condotto fra ottobre e novembre 2018 da Kaspersky Lab, circa 19% della popolazione mondiale ha già acquistato criptovalute.
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captainbuckkets 22-Jun-19 02:00 PM
Lol XRP
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 06:21 AM
C Is it just me seeing $1.21?
C:
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Irritant 24-Jun-19 06:22 AM
yes it is just you
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 06:22 AM
C Haha ok
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dirkmirk 24-Jun-19 06:23 AM
What exchange did it pull that price from?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 06:24 AM
C It's supposed to be the global average
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Irritant 24-Jun-19 06:24 AM
Bittylicious shows $1.49 with a volume of zero
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 06:24 AM
C
Reply to @Irritant Bittylicious shows $1.49 with a volume of zero
That'll be what's doing it. Thanks
Shamil
Reply to C <no text>
i hope you realise that this software is spying on your portfolio and selling your data
C
Reply to Shamil i hope you realise that this software is spying on your portfolio and selling your data
Yeah I do. I don't use it to monitor my portfolio though. Just to have a quick glance at prices
Shamil and also, as general rule of thumb, please stay away from russian crypto products
Shamil nothing but pain and suffering awaits if you ignore it
🍒 Nauris
Reply to C Is it just me seeing $1.21?
Peercoin Price Chart | Market Capitalization | News | Description | Team | Related Events | Community | Similar coins | Comments
C
Reply to Shamil and also, as general rule of thumb, please stay away from russian crypto products
Thanks. Do you have any recommendations for pain and suffering free portfolio apps?
C
Reply to 🍒 Nauris Real price here https://coinpaprika.com/coin/ppc-peercoin/
Thanks
Shamil unfortunately no, there's no phone app that does not leak your private data
🍒 Nauris I would be happy if cmc could remove coinegg from their list of exchanges. Too many people and applications relate on cmc prices despite they are not reliable price data source.
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dirkmirk 24-Jun-19 06:37 AM
Is their actual or is it heresay?
is their actual proof or heresay?
Just Joined having a look, I suppose its all pretty standard stuff
Coinegg showing a 24 hour high of 0.0000413, 24 hour low of 0.0000258
Bittrex, is showing 0.00003856 as a high & 0.00003210 low
BTC prices
What other exchnage would you use if you weere chinese?
Could this be like the Koreans overpaying for Bitcoin?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 07:00 AM
Peerchemist Coinegg just does not have the volume to form the price
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dirkmirk 24-Jun-19 07:06 AM
Or do you mean, if the alleged volume were real, the price would be less volatile? Like Bittrex, the trading range suggests low liquidity hence the high and low spikes but the volume suggests the price action should have less variance.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 07:27 AM
Peerchemist Yes
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 09:45 AM
D_o_N Hi! I wonder why the bestchange exchangers stopped the PPC exchange?
Shamil lack of liquidity most likely
D_o_N there were recently 2-3 exchangers, now 0
Shamil what was the third one
Shamil imechange, minedtrade, what's the third one
D_o_N changer_com
D_o_N changed it more than once
Shamil cool
Shamil most likely because whoever was providing ppc/usd mm on hitbtc disappeared(edited)
Shamil soon after polo delisting
D_o_N now removed, only the crypto-exchange
Shamil are you mining?
D_o_N no
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dirkmirk 24-Jun-19 03:38 PM
I deposited 10 peercoins to coinegg, talk a few hours for the balance to show up, to withdraw I need a minimum of 100 PPC,
Just doing this curiosity BTW
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 03:49 PM
Shamil and if you deposit 100 you need 1000 to withdraw?
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roadcrypto 24-Jun-19 04:05 PM
@dirkmirk they KYC on withdraw
we definitely need more exchanges
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jun-19 05:10 PM
Peerchemist for sure
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roadcrypto 24-Jun-19 09:02 PM
any response from tradeogre?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jun-19 01:42 AM
need to get services through this intermediary platform? Moreover, the cooperation between enterprises, usually the price will not be transparent, because the service provider needs to leave a certain profit margin for itself, usually in a relatively flexible way in the quotation; Once the platform-based automatic matching is adopted and the price needs to be transparent, the service fee is usually relatively high. Plus 10% of the platform intermediary service fee, the cost will be much more than the direct cooperation with the other party, at least 20% premium. Why do companies with needs choose an intermediate platform that requires premium access to services rather than directly contacting each other? 2.Violating the core value of blockchain and market trends In a business scenario that does not require an intermediary, it is a platform-based product that provides intermediary services. Without creating commercial benefits, it also violates the decentralization of the blockchain, the core concept and core value of the intermediary. At the same time, the commercial market trend itself, with the improvement of cooperation and communication efficiency, more existing intermediaries will be replaced by more efficient cooperation methods. This is one of the core reasons why people now use blockchain development and application. 3.It is not true that the “mainstream media platform prohibits advertising” as stated in the official website. In fact, you can find detailed contact information on Coindesk's official website , get in touch with the official to get services and quotations. You can also do this in other media portals.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jun-19 07:12 AM
artem Hello everyone, tell me please how to pos Pircoin and how best to do it and how much can i earn?
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Irritant 25-Jun-19 09:14 AM
unlock your wallet for minting only
1% annually
and it is Peercoin
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captainbuckkets 25-Jun-19 09:28 AM
Or every 30ish days if you don’t want to leave it open
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Irritant 25-Jun-19 09:38 AM
just leave it open, so you dont forget to open it again
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captainbuckkets 25-Jun-19 09:40 AM
^
This is true as well
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Irritant 25-Jun-19 09:43 AM
they probably stopped reading after 1% annually
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jun-19 09:43 AM
Peerchemist yes
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roadcrypto 25-Jun-19 10:17 AM
😂
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mperkins 25-Jun-19 05:18 PM
that's what people are looking for 😆
I still need to say that minting process should be simple to understand. that's I think will be the key.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jun-19 05:21 PM
Peerchemist It's not simple to understand?
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mperkins 25-Jun-19 05:24 PM
people doesn't even know what a cryptocurrency is. So minting process is quite something. At least for what I see around me.
but comparing to bank interest at a fixed rate using technology is easier to understand.
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captainbuckkets 25-Jun-19 09:51 PM
Yeah but interest is payment for banks holding your money. Minting is to keep pace with inflation
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Irritant 25-Jun-19 10:04 PM
debt is money
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 26-Jun-19 12:29 AM
Peerchemist Everything is money if you are brave enough
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captainbuckkets 26-Jun-19 09:11 AM
$doge
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Hmm
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 26-Jun-19 09:18 AM
C Hmmm?
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captainbuckkets 26-Jun-19 09:28 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 26-Jun-19 09:31 AM
C Is this hmmmming because Doge's 31st rank accurately describes the state of crypto?
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captainbuckkets 26-Jun-19 09:32 AM
More a hmmm because wolong tweeted about it
and I said it would go down because thats what whales do
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 26-Jun-19 09:39 AM
C Ahhh
Mihai
Reply to C Is this hmmmming because Doge's 31st rank accurately describes the state of crypto?
Doge is legit coin, no false promises like others in top 50
Mihai People buy it for the memes
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captainbuckkets 26-Jun-19 09:43 AM
Not sure what the future holds for doge but I personally expect it to be removed from some exchanges as it conforms to regulations
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necro 27-Jun-19 04:42 AM
8:45 AM] necro: welcoming below 1000sat price
on may 11th -_-
mid or by the end on 2020 alts will rise again vs btc
till than, ded
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mperkins 27-Jun-19 07:32 AM
it makes senses, Bitcoin will rise but people will realize it's not what they thought and there are better opportunities. Then Peercoin/alts will rise at this time. well that's what happening in the best case at least 😃
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necro 27-Jun-19 08:40 AM
ppc/nmc rose with random wex/polo exchanges
don't know if this will be the case anymore because there is no volume w/o those exchanges
if no new exchanges and volatility, it will be hard to even cross $1
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Jun-19 02:06 PM
D_o_N 37 cents - beauty ...
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Cybnate 27-Jun-19 05:14 PM
Sale is on!
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noone 29-Jun-19 03:35 PM
PPC to da moon
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captainbuckkets 29-Jun-19 04:30 PM
🌕
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 12:37 AM
D_o_N asking for those psychos who sell PPC for 37 cents, at what price did you buy PPC?
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necro 01-Jul-19 03:14 AM
asking for those holding ppc now and not buying when the price will be 20c or below
its never about the price, the ammount of coins is that counts
and how much you can get more
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 03:42 AM
🍒 Nauris Just thinking what price of ppc will be when btc will dump back to 3k
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 03:54 AM
D_o_N
Reply to 🍒 Nauris Just thinking what price of ppc will be when btc will dump back to 3k
10 cents probably
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 04:02 AM
🍒 Nauris But what if btc stays stable for some time and altcoins start pumping
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 04:23 AM
🍒 Nauris Selling on all time low is very risky thinking to get it more cheaper later, I have seen this scenario before with other coins before, people sold at bottom because they cant resist constant day by day falling and sell in last drop thinking it will dump more but price actually pumped higher than it was weeks or months ago and you lost your coins, no one can predict bottom but you can buy close to it. Crypto isnt for weak people.(edited)
🍒 Nauris Ok, but everyone have to learn from their experience.
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necro 01-Jul-19 04:35 AM
and ppc was pumped among the last ones every cycle, and pumps were started on btc-e/polo/wex
so it doesn't look promising at all if 'alts pump'
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 04:43 AM
D_o_N I agree, PPC raised in price on the exchanges BTC-E / WEX and Poloniex
D_o_N now it's quiet
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 04:56 AM
🍒 Nauris Might be different now, but doesnt mean other exchanges isnt capable of it. PPC is coin with strong historical value in crypto space and on top of that its developement is still active more than ever. So even without those exchanges I think people would value PPC and would like to get piece of it.
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necro 01-Jul-19 05:28 AM
only noobs ride on historical value bla bla bla stories
its all about exchanges
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 05:30 AM
🍒 Nauris Ok, than I m noob 👍
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necro 01-Jul-19 05:46 AM
there is a difference between a trader and a believer aka holder aka living on hopium
do your research
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Johngt 01-Jul-19 06:17 AM
@necro thats why you keep "trolling"
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necro 01-Jul-19 06:20 AM
actually, now im not
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dirkmirk 01-Jul-19 09:44 AM
Necro, what coins do you hold? I asked you before and you never answered,
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 11:10 AM
D_o_N oh.... 35 cents👍
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mperkins 01-Jul-19 12:13 PM
#HOLD
How PPC price can be so low ? It followed Bitcoin rise last time, I think it can do the same for the next bull run as well.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Jul-19 12:53 PM
Hasimov Last time for many many reasons wex raped it. Wex is not here anymore so: expect that(edited)
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roadcrypto 01-Jul-19 05:46 PM
I'm gonna ride my alts down to all-time lows, I'm gonna buy til I can't no more 🤠 https://t.co/GHibhPA3J5
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@NobFox 😐
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NobFox 01-Jul-19 05:47 PM
I'll let you have that one.
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roadcrypto 01-Jul-19 08:04 PM
it's not mine, that's why I @'ed you, sir frenn
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NobFox 03-Jul-19 04:59 AM
I meant that I'd let you take the finders credit as I posted it before you in CGN. 😛 @roadcrypto
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captainbuckkets 04-Jul-19 04:54 PM
Shorting in a bull market
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Jul-19 12:19 AM
Mihai Footage of Mihai shorting 5400 and 5800. March 1842, colorized(edited)
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Irritant 07-Jul-19 06:38 PM
hypers
bull market here we come
+2.94% bitches 😎
huzzaa
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captainbuckkets 07-Jul-19 07:10 PM
peercoinhypers
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roadcrypto 07-Jul-19 10:06 PM
btc fees getting expensive, altseason here we come peercoinhypers
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mperkins 08-Jul-19 07:36 AM
do you think altseason will be now ? what about the 2020 btc halving I think bull run will start from here or before(edited)
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Irritant 08-Jul-19 07:37 AM
now is before isnt it?
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mperkins 08-Jul-19 07:38 AM
well btc halving is in May, before is like January or something like that
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Irritant 08-Jul-19 07:40 AM
im ready for some beef stake
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mperkins 08-Jul-19 07:40 AM
haha
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 08-Jul-19 08:18 AM
Peerchemist I don't think classic altseason is possible as bulk of the 'alts' are now illegal under the US law
Peerchemist ICO's
Peerchemist Problem is that icos have somehow became alts
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roadcrypto 08-Jul-19 09:35 AM
I think there's enough juice for another good season
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necro 08-Jul-19 11:23 AM
halving wont have an impact on price as same as before
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 08-Jul-19 12:22 PM
Peerchemist it never had impact, it's just an excuse for a pump
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Irritant 08-Jul-19 02:54 PM
the halving is already in calculated
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noone 08-Jul-19 03:04 PM
when moon?
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captainbuckkets 08-Jul-19 03:08 PM
generally when the sun goes down
but it is visible for most of the day, its just hard to see
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noone 08-Jul-19 03:52 PM
I WILL BE WAITING!
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mperkins 08-Jul-19 05:35 PM
BTC halving in 2020 may have some impact I think. I'll be waiting too.
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roadcrypto 10-Jul-19 12:13 PM
i'm surprised* PPC hasn't* fallen over the 3k mark with all the blood out there(edited)
(can't spell today 😛 )
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Jul-19 12:13 PM
Shamil no more sellers left
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Jul-19 02:59 PM
C
Reply to Shamil no more sellers left
That's the beautiful thing about rock bottom. The only way is up.
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Irritant 10-Jul-19 06:41 PM
@CryptoMessiah Goes to $9200 this month or doesnt go to 16k until Ocotber or the anonymous cartoon avatar that has been right all year is wrong.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 11-Jul-19 12:44 AM
ZhiPing $peercoin
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necro 11-Jul-19 01:04 AM
when you think its bottom, its not
when you're desperate and cant stand crypto anymore and want to cry under the bed, than its bottom
so to sum up, you havent seen bottom yet
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Jul-19 12:23 PM
D_o_N and you PPC ran 32 cents
D_o_N soon 20 cents will merge, and then 10
D_o_N from this pit she will not get out ...
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captainbuckkets 12-Jul-19 12:27 PM
perhaps
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Jul-19 12:29 PM
D_o_N it's probably those who pour for 9-10 bucks bought it
D_o_N 👍
D_o_N or found a hole and the price slipped so
D_o_N unknown
🍒 Nauris
Reply to D_o_N or found a hole and the price slipped so
about what hole you are talking?
D_o_N I say the options because of what the price may collapse so
D_o_N or vulnerabilities in PPC can never be?
🍒 Nauris
Reply to D_o_N or vulnerabilities in PPC can never be?
I don't think so, all I see here is people panic selling, telegram group users decreasing. When all weak hands will sell price will increase.
D_o_N What was the minimum price for PPC?
D_o_N wishing to buy PPC is not, out on 34 cents packs want to sell, get rid
🍒 Nauris In BTC value it's all time low. Looking at CMC chart, lowest USD price was in 2013 at 11 cents and then in year 2015 it found bottom at 23 cents and in 2017 around 25 cents.
🍒 Nauris So I believe current price is very close to possible bottom price in USD.
🍒 Nauris Every 2 years it found bottom and reverse, so this year could be the same.
D_o_N
Reply to 🍒 Nauris So I believe current price is very close to possible bottom price in USD.
there is still room to fall and very far
🍒 Nauris
Reply to D_o_N there is still room to fall and very far
let it fall, we need to get rid of all sellers.
D_o_N 😀
🍒 Nauris let them sell cheap
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dirkmirk 12-Jul-19 04:12 PM
Hasn't got far to fall, could go close to 10 cents but can't see it dropping further
Caveat, as long as we don't loose more exchanges....
I wonder how much of a thing Peercoin was in eastern europe/Russia when btc-e/wex was operating, when those exchanges closed did the interest in Peercoin evaporate?
Their must be some whales holding Peercoin, isn't the modus operandi you email an exchange and offer to gift coins to get a listing? I suppose in that scenario you might wait til Peercoin is worth like $5 a coin.
If Peercoin can reach those levels
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Irritant 12-Jul-19 04:18 PM
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captainbuckkets 12-Jul-19 04:19 PM
I wonder how much of a thing Peercoin was in eastern europe/Russia when btc-e/wex was operating Huge eastern euro interest
I don't know what wex did, but it hurt the supply pretty bad
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Irritant 12-Jul-19 04:20 PM
😭
you know what it did?
dont know
dont be like wex
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dirkmirk 12-Jul-19 04:23 PM
Dont scam?
I actually bought Peercoin tokens at 60% and fully redeemed and withdrew the funds before it went down
No idea why Peercoin was paid out, I had a small amount in litecoin that we t away
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Irritant 12-Jul-19 04:24 PM
living life on the edge
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dirkmirk 12-Jul-19 04:24 PM
Down the drain, only 3 coins or their abouta
Can't believe primecoin is still trading on Poloneix and Peercoin gets the flick
Maybe it's a conspiracy, Poloneix are buying cheap ppc or have a huge stash from people who didn't withdraw their coins when they delisted, they reannounce Peercoin listing and make a fortune when trading resumes lol!
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captainbuckkets 12-Jul-19 04:32 PM
Polo is getting extreme pressure from the US
Everybody is
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dirkmirk 12-Jul-19 05:10 PM
Are you talking in terms of ICOs? BTC/LTC and PPC are in the same basket, if anything Peercoin should be just as safe as any crypto
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captainbuckkets 12-Jul-19 05:14 PM
Just the exchanges
Not sure on the ICOs but someone is cleaning house. I don't think we deserved to be in that basket but I think it wasn't personal. Moving forward I don't think that will happen again. We are regulation compliant in the highest of manners
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peerchemist 12-Jul-19 05:32 PM
@dirkmirk we are in the same basket, but without direct contacts with top people of exchanges (like litecoin) and the reputation of Bitcoin we are seen as just some random ICO by majority of exchanges
thus poloniex situation(edited)
but poloniex was impossible to communicate with, and still is. They are quite a "dumpster fire" inside.(edited)
we have excellent communication with bittrex for about two years now, and with the rest of exchanges who operate Peercoin markets
getting a proper contact with relevant people (not 9-5 clerks) is extremely hard due to oversaturation and ignorance
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 13-Jul-19 08:00 AM
D_o_N Today, PPC tried to break through 30 cents and open the way to 20 cents
D_o_N it didn't work out yet, but everything will happen soon
🍒 Nauris
Reply to D_o_N it didn't work out yet, but everything will happen soon
ok
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Irritant 14-Jul-19 01:33 AM
when the going gets tough
the tough get going
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 06:58 AM
D_o_N guys, pull yourself up, you need to push 30 cents and open the way to 20 cents
D_o_N very little left
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 07:26 AM
Peerchemist okay selling now
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 07:38 AM
D_o_N OK
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Peter 14-Jul-19 08:00 AM
Wow. I thought PPC is going to be around 0.3$ in June this year (and like predicted it in Nov 2018), but didn't know it will be when BTC is at 10K. Thought BTC would be max 4-5K by then.
Lack of BTC-E is really hurting a lot.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 09:57 AM
Shamil lol
Shamil lack of btc-e is really helping us a lot
Shamil here's to hoping that their wallets are forever gone
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 10:08 AM
Exe Is there convincing evidence that these wallets are lost forever? No, there is no such evidence, and this is a large amount of funds, so everything can fall even lower, to one satoshi for example
Shamil no, there is no evidence whatsoever
Shamil but the way old btce admin parted ways with new owners makes it very likely that he won't be transacting anymore
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Peter 14-Jul-19 11:59 AM
Well, it's also naive to think they would miss out on such occasions, they had like 2M PPCs, if it was rising.(edited)
Like they have probably access to other coins as well there (LTC for example)...
And without btc-e there is no USD fiat gateway, and most of the vol.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 12:32 PM
D_o_N wow ... they took 30 cents, this is good news, we press on 👍
Peerchemist yes Ill sell more later
Peerchemist shush dont kill the narrative
Shamil
Reply to mmhmm And without btc-e there is no USD fiat gateway, and most of the vol.
D_o_N
Reply to Peerchemist yes Ill sell more later
only there are at least two exchanges that provide ppc fiat pairs that i know about, i see you have been banned from google for good reason
Why later? need a panic now😀
Peerchemist waiting for some bids to come up
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Peter 14-Jul-19 12:42 PM
I just meant none of them are as popular as BTC-E.
And no I don't panic, cause I have exactly 0 PPC.
PPC/EUR and PPC/USDT is different than PPC/USD pair. Nonetheless PPC/BTC still have the most liquidity now, as I remember with BTC-E this wasn't the case.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 12:45 PM
D_o_N
Reply to mmhmm And no I don't panic, cause I have exactly 0 PPC.
now is the time for you to buy PPC
Shamil please do not
Shamil we have too many special holders as it is
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 12:48 PM
Shamil yes, both of them dominated by their bots
Shamil not sure why this comes as a surprise to anyone
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Peter 14-Jul-19 12:51 PM
like any other coin in reality now, market maker bots are everywhere
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 01:01 PM
D_o_N Very sad that PPC is not on the major exchanges. Why developers do not work in this direction, it is interesting ...
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:05 PM
reality is that exchanges should introduce ppc as they introduced other coins, but they are too lazy, or extorte money.
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 01:07 PM
What are the major exchanges anymore? Poloniex had 4k users this month
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:10 PM
Meme-nance
But even they are banning US users
So alts will have hard time there. Looks like pumpers have only BTC, LTC maybe ETH left to pump...(edited)
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 01:13 PM
Its a process
But yes, they are losing US volume
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:14 PM
Actually I was quite curious, and I checked Order book liquidity for some high-profile alts and BTC
That's why I got (from about 120 exchanges integrated)
Combined order book for 10% span BTC: 650M ETH: 270M EOS: 100M LTC: 93M XRP: 72M XMR: 20M
I can search for PPC too
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 01:14 PM
do it
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:15 PM
PPC Combined Orders $56 027.14
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 01:15 PM
Can you see it historically?
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:16 PM
Yep, but only for one month, cause we just started collecting data
Was like 80-100K USD in June
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 01:16 PM
hm
We lost Bitsane and Tux
Bitsane exit scammed and Tux closed
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:17 PM
Tux didnt even count
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 01:17 PM
Good
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:17 PM
They didnt have any depth really. Bitsane had tho
it should be introduced next week
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 01:18 PM
Shamil bitscame
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 01:18 PM
yup
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:22 PM
similar capped coin to PPC
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 01:23 PM
lonely at the bottom
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 01:42 PM
Peerchemist Damn navcoin
Peerchemist Summercoin v2
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Peter 14-Jul-19 01:50 PM
Yeah, I know it was quite a shitcoin in 2014 😄
But seemed they secure this binance listing, and somehow stay afloat. Still probably shitcoin, but with more liquidity
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captainbuckkets 14-Jul-19 02:20 PM
I'm aware
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Jul-19 02:42 PM
D_o_N fair price for PPC 5-7 cents, no more. For a high price, this coin is not interesting to anyone.
D_o_N 5 cents can buy a couple of thousand coins👍
Peerchemist nice to see you that bearish at the bottom
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Peter 14-Jul-19 03:00 PM
@peerchemist still didnt see real alts capitulations, so dunno if it's bottom.
Although interested more and more 😄
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dirkmirk 15-Jul-19 04:12 AM
5 cents a coin? Why a couple thousand when you can have a couple hundred thousand?
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Peter 15-Jul-19 08:21 AM
The price can be whatever in crypto
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 15-Jul-19 08:25 AM
D_o_N
Reply to @dirkmirk 5 cents a coin? Why a couple thousand when you can have a couple hundred thousand?
more than a couple of thousand dangerous ... you can not do anything with
D_o_N buy today, and tomorrow this coin no longer exists
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 15-Jul-19 08:47 AM
Peerchemist Right
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captainbuckkets 15-Jul-19 10:59 AM
$ppc
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Altpocket BOT 15-Jul-19 10:59 AM
Ended(edited)
Rank: 376 Price USD: $0.28017859 Price BTC: 0.00002655 BTC Price ETH: 0.00121717 ETH Market Cap: $7,143,900.193 24h volume: $42,865.818 Supply: 25,497,665.891 Change 1h: -1.55% Change 24h: -5.25% Change 7 days: -31.07%
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mperkins 15-Jul-19 11:16 AM
Time to buy then
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Irritant 16-Jul-19 07:28 PM
we're almost pennystock
oh.. already are
everything below $5 is
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Irritant 16-Jul-19 07:46 PM
they say btc dropped because libra got some heat
i dont understand
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Peter 17-Jul-19 02:56 AM
whole crypto is penny stocks if you dont see it. Maybe apart from biggest 5 - all others are penny stocks
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 17-Jul-19 03:00 AM
Peerchemist It's all penny stock
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Cybnate 17-Jul-19 04:02 AM
@Irritant Don't try to understand. You just need to understand what the majority of people who after a quick buck, major news outlets report and newbies understand. That is how stocks behave generally.
No logic
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 17-Jul-19 04:02 AM
Peerchemist there is logic of course
Peerchemist it's a game of the big boys
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Cybnate 17-Jul-19 04:05 AM
They just play on the above groups, that is not logic, just manipulation I would say. Call it game if you want
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 17-Jul-19 08:15 AM
D_o_N 25 cents for PPC is very expensive
D_o_N chase her up to 5 cents👍
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Irritant 17-Jul-19 09:34 AM
going up in BTC
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dirkmirk 18-Jul-19 06:41 PM
25 cents was cheap now its 29 cents
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 20-Jul-19 01:08 AM
ZhiPing Only 2.5 cents is cheap
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dirkmirk 20-Jul-19 02:00 AM
$10 might be a cheap peercoin
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necro 20-Jul-19 06:41 AM
even if that happens, it wouldnt last for a week -_-
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Irritant 20-Jul-19 06:53 AM
there is always some sucker who buys at the top?
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noone 20-Jul-19 11:29 AM
i want to buy
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Irritant 20-Jul-19 11:32 AM
says noone 😄
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noone 20-Jul-19 11:34 AM
please contact me if you want to sell
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 21-Jul-19 03:13 PM
D_o_N
Reply to @noone please contact me if you want to sell
I want to sell PPC. At what price do you buy PPC?
D_o_N This pipka and on 29 cents nobody needs, nobody buys
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noone 21-Jul-19 03:42 PM
@Peercoin Telegram Relay 29 cents works for me.
how much are you selling?
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captainbuckkets 21-Jul-19 07:53 PM
I recommend you find a reputable escrow service
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roadcrypto 21-Jul-19 10:57 PM
or do it on an exchange 😛
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jul-19 02:48 AM
Peerchemist I can do the escrow
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jul-19 04:16 AM
D_o_N
Reply to @noone how much are you selling?
I did not say that I will sell for 29 cents. At 29, buy on the stock exchanges, only there for the price no one buys, full of orders for sale, and there are no people willing to buy. You have to buy there 29 cents
D_o_N I myself am ready to buy PPC but at 5 cents, not more expensive
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jul-19 08:11 AM
Sentinelrv In the previous bear market it never went lower than 20 cents.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Jul-19 08:24 AM
D_o_N
Reply to Sentinelrv In the previous bear market it never went lower than 20 cents.
Well, PPC went down from $10 to $0.26. 38 times the price fell. so in this bear market and 5 cents per coin can be
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Peter 22-Jul-19 12:00 PM
That's not how you calculate drop of the asset price.
It dropped 97,4%
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dirkmirk 24-Jul-19 04:09 AM
Damn V systems is doing well I really thought that project would tank
Feels like they are always trying to reinvent the wheel, Bitcoin works with POW Peercoin works with POS
Seems strange that theirs basically no community talking about this coin, listed on decent exchanges and has trading volume of 16 million, seems bizzare
Next to no media coverage
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jul-19 04:12 AM
Shamil well, if you do look at the real liquidity you'd notice the real story
Shamil:
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Peter 24-Jul-19 10:03 AM
80K$ all orders vs 400M cap - seems legit 😂
It's quite often that new tokens are easier to pump then old ones - new ones doesnt have any bagholders
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Irritant 24-Jul-19 12:08 PM
mewn
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captainbuckkets 24-Jul-19 03:06 PM
today is mewn day
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jul-19 03:24 PM
Shamil since when is slight correction is moon
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captainbuckkets 24-Jul-19 03:30 PM
since I got asked about it everyday for months
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jul-19 03:32 PM
Shamil huh
Shamil so your sights are too low, it doesn't instill confidence in your project
Shamil people might dump
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captainbuckkets 24-Jul-19 03:34 PM
I never said sell or buy. I've refrained from that always. Just noting
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jul-19 03:35 PM
Shamil noting that slight increase in rate after eons of decline is moon all of a sudden? really?
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captainbuckkets 24-Jul-19 03:37 PM
Aight man, I'll go back to work then
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Jul-19 03:39 PM
Peerchemist Back to work both of you
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dirkmirk 24-Jul-19 07:46 PM
When was the last time Peercoin rose 18% in a day? Good news
Where it's going is anyone's guess, V Systems literature often mentions Sunny King, POS & Peercoin
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Sentinelrv 24-Jul-19 07:58 PM
@dirkmirk do you remember what Sunny said when he first announced VSYS? Pay attention to the 2nd paragraph... https://talk.peercoin.net/t/ann-sunny-joins-project-vee/7346
I would like to announce that Project VEE (https://vee.tech/) is under development and that I have assumed a full time position as chief architect for the project. VEE aims to bring about a next generation platform for blockchain applications. The VEE team is currently promot...
Specifically this part... “It is my hope that Project VEE can also bring more resources to share with the Peercoin team and community, eventually working into a healthy collaboration between the teams and communities of both projects.”
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dirkmirk 24-Jul-19 07:59 PM
Actually no, that is good to hear regardless
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Sentinelrv 24-Jul-19 08:00 PM
So I wish Sunny’s project well.
Even though I am not personally involved in it.
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dirkmirk 24-Jul-19 08:01 PM
If nothing else it's going bring attention to ppc
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Sentinelrv 24-Jul-19 08:01 PM
Yes
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dirkmirk 24-Jul-19 08:02 PM
Surely this is THE argument for proof of stake, I mean with a 10 million market cap if the Peercoin network isn't getting compromised with such a low a market cap
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Sentinelrv 24-Jul-19 08:03 PM
A good example is this conference they are having, which mentions us in the advertising... https://twitter.com/CoinMarketCap/status/1152219055320752128
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dirkmirk 25-Jul-19 01:10 AM
Now Peercoin is flying bout time
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necro 25-Jul-19 03:00 AM
omg omg, after +95% drop 5% rise and you're all flying like flys on crap -_-
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backpacker 25-Jul-19 03:01 AM
for real
i mean price returned to 1 month ago
and you are extatic
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dirkmirk 25-Jul-19 05:49 AM
Considering it was supposed to be 5 cents 40 cents is a long way from their
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jul-19 05:49 AM
Shamil supposed by whom?
Shamil fair dinkum you aren't taking what people on this chat serious are ya?
Peerchemist yeah where is that guy who sold absolute bottom expecting 5 cents?
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dirkmirk 25-Jul-19 05:52 AM
Nah just playing along, one of the trolls said Peercoin was worth 5 cents
I'd like to hear what coins Nerco and Backpacker hold/held
Who the hell reaponds to my statement one minute after posting to troll? Necro must have a sad life lol
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jul-19 05:55 AM
Peerchemist yeah he's likely the sadest human I've seen around
Shamil he's not so bad
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dirkmirk 25-Jul-19 05:55 AM
One thing ive learnt with crypto... It pays to be an optimist...
Pessismists miss the opportunities
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jul-19 05:56 AM
Peerchemist how can you be optimist about crypto?
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dirkmirk 25-Jul-19 05:57 AM
I'm actually positive on crypto as long as world markets are booming, it took a while but the Australian share market just hit fresh 12 year highs, dow Jones obviousky going gangbusters, people have apetite for risk(crypto) with inflated asset prices looking for better returns
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All bets are off if world markets are crashing
Crypto will tank hard
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jul-19 05:58 AM
Peerchemist IDK I am industry insider and work in this crap for 5y and I'm super pessimistic about it
Peerchemist it's basically a scam fest
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dirkmirk 25-Jul-19 05:59 AM
Yeah I basically agree
I think lightening can strike one more time( 2013 boom/2017)
In regards to crypto
I think what crypto maxilmilists failed to see, the people pulling the levers of fiat are no different from the ones who have power over crypto
Human greed ultimately
Part of the reason I'm sticking with Peercoin, theirs going to be thousands upon thousands more coins trying to sell a new narrative, peercoins hasn't changed and has history on it's side in the crypto space
How many coins are literally dead from when Peercoin was top 10 back in 2013/14, Quarkcoin comes to mind
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necro 25-Jul-19 06:04 AM
all i was saying was 1k sat cca half a year ago
and i wasn't far off
and you just assumed this was bottom
and still reversal isnt confirmed
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dirkmirk 25-Jul-19 06:05 AM
Of course not, I look at market cap, even 2 million doesnt worry me
Because as an individual you will make a difference to order booms
Books
And buys
Can't say the same for xrp with above 10 billion for example
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Jul-19 06:08 AM
Peerchemist xrp is absolutely dominated by their MM
Peerchemist you wont make a difference whatever the marketcap is
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dirkmirk 25-Jul-19 06:09 AM
Litecoin/Bitcoin are like 75/85% mined, XRP has a huge supply side to get through, Evey xrp shill never wants to acknowledge that
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roadcrypto 25-Jul-19 02:56 PM
peercoinhypers
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Irritant 26-Jul-19 08:52 AM
almost back at $0.50
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dirkmirk 26-Jul-19 08:56 PM
Jumped up about 100 in rankings too
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captainbuckkets 27-Jul-19 12:55 AM
Did it really?
Good for Peercoin
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roadcrypto 27-Jul-19 01:01 AM
you're a peercoin 😐
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captainbuckkets 27-Jul-19 02:42 AM
ur a peercoin
fite me
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Jul-19 03:35 AM
C Settle down kids. Nobody is a Peercoin
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mperkins 27-Jul-19 09:06 AM
we are Peercoin 😆
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Jul-19 09:16 AM
Peerchemist will the real Peercoin please stand up?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Jul-19 09:38 AM
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roadcrypto 27-Jul-19 04:42 PM
peercoinhypers
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Jul-19 06:59 PM
ZhiPing I am stand up
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Irritant 27-Jul-19 07:02 PM
no chair?
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Irritant 27-Jul-19 09:03 PM
still weak hands
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dirkmirk 28-Jul-19 04:27 PM
XPM volume down to $14,000 they must be excluding coineggs fake volume or whatever happened, Peercoin has been well up around$230,000-$250,000
Good to see Poloneix backing a winner(XPM vs PPC), NOT!
I suppose it's unlikely, maybe we should suggest to Poloneix they swap XPM for PPC?
They removed the wrong coin if their was ever a choice between the 2
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Jul-19 04:31 PM
Peerchemist That's not how poloniex thinks
Peerchemist Keeping primecoin coin makes sense because its dead
Peerchemist No updates, so no money spent on maintenance
Peerchemist Also it's not pos and poloniex being dumpster fire they are, are eager to remove pos coins due to legal questions. Naturally without asking us anything about it(edited)
Peerchemist Bittrex shows what's up, peercoin is one of the few coins there which are tradable by both US and the worldwide clients
Peerchemist But poloniex has no manpower to tackle it properly, they have like 5 people in the tech department
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Peter 28-Jul-19 05:41 PM
besides insiders/pumpers on polo have to much vested interest in primecoin
it's their coin to pump and dump
apparently primecoin had unofficial 0.16 port of bitcoin core - some russians have ported it as I saw 😁
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NobFox 29-Jul-19 04:24 AM
68% in a week. 😍(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Jul-19 04:48 AM
Sentinelrv Great news! Peercoin will be listed on Hotbit soon! Check here for official confirmation... https://twitter.com/Hotbit_news/status/1156484830642634753?s=20
Good news! 🥳🥳🥳 Hotbit will open Peercoin markets soon! Also Peercoin v0.8 released on Monday! Check here for more details: https://t.co/RAmjvIzSBb @PeercoinPPC @PPCCommunity
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dirkmirk 31-Jul-19 09:13 AM
Excellent, more places to trade can only help
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roadcrypto 31-Jul-19 10:21 AM
hotbit a bit scammy with their withdraw fees... but i have used it to score some coins not yet listed elsewhere
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Peter 31-Jul-19 10:24 AM
well hotbit isnt exactly tier-A grade exchange
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Jul-19 10:24 AM
Peerchemist it's fine we need some china
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Peter 31-Jul-19 10:25 AM
Isnt it RU?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Jul-19 10:27 AM
Peerchemist HK
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roadcrypto 31-Jul-19 11:00 AM
Investor walks into a brokerage office wanting China commodity plays. Brokerage manager tries to sell her some large cap U.S. growth stocks.
have you seen this, @peerchemist ?
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Irritant 31-Jul-19 11:04 AM
china invented the number zero 😄
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Jul-19 11:06 AM
Peerchemist
Reply to @roadcrypto have you seen this, @peerchemist ?
no but it's good
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Peter 31-Jul-19 11:27 AM
Great
"I want China" xddd
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Irritant 31-Jul-19 11:30 AM
"by providing liquidity to customers and keeping orderly markets i'm contributing to society"(edited)
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Peter 31-Jul-19 11:50 AM
It was "keeping orderly markets"
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Demindiro 31-Jul-19 01:17 PM
That price dip was weird
It suddenly dropped a lot and then was suddenly the original price after a few days
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captainbuckkets 31-Jul-19 01:22 PM
I haven't looked. Lets go see
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Irritant 31-Jul-19 09:27 PM
i have detected an anomaly in the space time continuum
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mperkins 31-Jul-19 10:04 PM
@Irritant sounds like an annoying problem 😆
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dirkmirk 01-Aug-19 03:13 AM
Doe anyone know about contacting coinmarketcap?
Wonder if it's worth getting coinspot listed for PPC/AUD in the Peercoin markets section
Australians are pretty crazy about crypto probably help the coin if more Auzzies knew about coinspot if Peercoin perks their interest
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captainbuckkets 01-Aug-19 03:17 AM
@dirkmirk
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dirkmirk 01-Aug-19 03:17 AM
Cool
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captainbuckkets 01-Aug-19 03:17 AM
They respond pretty fast
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captainbuckkets 01-Aug-19 11:22 AM
;)
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Random_guy 01-Aug-19 11:59 AM
on cryptoBridge ?! yes!! i have few satoshi there!
it's me or there are 1 new exchange per day since the released of 0.8 ??
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Aug-19 12:01 PM
Peerchemist Maybe more is coming?
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Random_guy 01-Aug-19 12:03 PM
i bet that you have like 10 new exchanges listing ready but you have limited to 1 per day to up slowly but strongly!
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mperkins 01-Aug-19 12:48 PM
They realised that Peercoin is a great token thats why :p never too late
But I agree that its still need more marketing as well it seems that people only know about Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum for now... It will come I think
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Aug-19 12:51 PM
Peerchemist why are you saying that peercoin is a token?
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mperkins 01-Aug-19 12:55 PM
Because I wanted to say coin. What the difference between the two?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Aug-19 12:56 PM
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peerchemist 01-Aug-19 12:59 PM
coin = bitcoin style, ie UTXO model, native blockchain currency token = account style, living on some other blockchain like Ethereum
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mperkins 01-Aug-19 12:59 PM
I'm quite new I'll check difference. Learning everyday right :p
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Aug-19 05:38 AM
Sentinelrv Announcing the Peercoin Exchange Listing Fund! Let’s work together on expanding access to Peercoin! https://talk.peercoin.net/t/foundation-update-4-peercoin-exchange-listing-fund/9582
Exchange Expansion Many of you in the community have been asking for a while now what we have been doing to get Peercoin listed on more exchanges. Lack of access to more exchanges with high trading volume has been one of Peercoin’s biggest problem areas over the past severa...
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roadcrypto 02-Aug-19 01:27 PM
😐
don't ever call a coin a token
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mperkins 02-Aug-19 11:14 PM
Alright
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roadcrypto 02-Aug-19 11:48 PM
ever 😐
or else 😐
* ominous noise *
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captainbuckkets 02-Aug-19 11:51 PM
Lots of the tokens are scams
Thats why the sensitivity usually
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roadcrypto 02-Aug-19 11:58 PM
there's lots of shitty scammy utxo chains out there. wasn't bitconnect a coin?
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dirkmirk 04-Aug-19 12:58 AM
Peercoin coming back, just under 49 cents
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HighLow 04-Aug-19 07:12 AM
hi...why don't you try to list PPC on a real USD market instead of listing it on some obscure exchanges that have only btc markets. PPC will grow faster and bigger if it has a direct USD market. why don't you try...kraken or bitfinex? why do you go for binance that is not quite ok.(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 04-Aug-19 07:43 AM
Shamil valid question really
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 04-Aug-19 07:56 AM
Petr hello everyone, how are we going with the PPC project?
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Sentinelrv 04-Aug-19 08:01 AM
@HighLow The Peercoin Foundation is currently not in a position to secure listing of Peercoin markets at massive exchanges like Bitfinex and Kraken. They are extremely expensive and they also have higher minimum requirements for listing, like minimum daily volume, community size and other factors. A rule of thumb is that money gets you everywhere you want. Our current strategy here is to build ourselves up to it by first getting listed on these medium sized exchanges. This will help increase Peercoin’s trading volume, liquidity and price. As we build ourselves up in this way, we will naturally become more attractive to the larger exchanges over time. Going straight to the top cannot work unless we have someone willing to finance the massive costs involved. Targeting medium sized exchanges such as the ones listed in the original post and building ourselves up slowly over time is less costly and more sustainable in the long run.(edited)
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Hi Petr. just check our Twitter. Lots of news over the last week. v0.8 released, new marketing video series, new exchange listings, new exchange listing fund, etc...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 04-Aug-19 08:17 AM
Sentinelrv I have posted your question and my response in the main thread for the listing fund, so others can see it as well... https://talk.peercoin.net/t/announcing-the-peercoin-exchange-listing-fund-let-s-work-together-on-expanding-access-to-peercoin/9582/6
The following is a valid question posted on our Discord/Telegram trading channel. I feel this is a valid question and others may be wondering the same thing. The Peercoin Foundation is unable to just go for support at massive exchanges like Bitfinex and Kraken. They are ext...
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Peter 04-Aug-19 09:25 AM
Wouldn't Kraken or Bitfinex think that PPC being so old and still active could be reasonable reason to list?(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 04-Aug-19 09:25 AM
Peerchemist no
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roadcrypto 04-Aug-19 12:04 PM
The FATF’s regulation might be the end of privacy in crypto industry, and the regulation might also create a black market of crypto addresses.
thots?
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Peter 04-Aug-19 12:35 PM
Really curious how they will treat Monero(edited)
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peerchemist 04-Aug-19 12:36 PM
badly
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roadcrypto 04-Aug-19 01:46 PM
lol
it's a stupid idea, even for "adoption's sake"
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Peter 04-Aug-19 01:52 PM
It was brought by all "capitans of industry" - they have done it. If crypto would stay smaller, and under the radar, it wouldn't be KYCed to the hell of it.(edited)
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roadcrypto 04-Aug-19 02:12 PM
making it so everything is tied to your name AND visible by everyone... i mean, c'mon.
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peerchemist 04-Aug-19 02:28 PM
send a thank you letter to all the scammers who gotten the law to the point they have to act
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 04-Aug-19 02:43 PM
Petr
Reply to @Sentinelrv Hi Petr. just check our Twitter. Lots of news over the last week. v0.8 released, new marketing video…
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roadcrypto 04-Aug-19 06:12 PM
i've done my share of calling out scams, @peerchemist
i'm not saying btc "should be for dark markets", but privacy especially in wealth management is important
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captainbuckkets 04-Aug-19 07:20 PM
private for sure
if you use venmo, look at all the people actively marking what they paid for and spent like its a social network
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roadcrypto 04-Aug-19 10:00 PM
use what?
i don't even paypal, brah
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dirkmirk 05-Aug-19 09:20 AM
Hi
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roadcrypto 05-Aug-19 09:29 AM
ello
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captainbuckkets 05-Aug-19 11:20 AM
Oy
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Cybnate 06-Aug-19 03:07 AM
Hey
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captainbuckkets 06-Aug-19 03:08 AM
sup
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Cybnate 06-Aug-19 03:38 AM
In real news, BTC back to 12k and PPC over 0.50 and going up. Nice
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 06-Aug-19 03:39 AM
Peerchemist hashrate +25% in 24h
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dirkmirk 06-Aug-19 05:53 AM
Nice nice nice
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 06-Aug-19 06:25 AM
C Coolcoolcool
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captainbuckkets 06-Aug-19 11:18 AM
Tight tight tight
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HighLow 09-Aug-19 04:14 PM
sclp ppc ,btc bulltrap(edited)
next stop 8k 6k
4k 2k
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Aug-19 04:59 PM
Peerchemist
Reply to @HighLow next stop 8k 6k
Btc?
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Peter 09-Aug-19 05:03 PM
8K I would be yes, 6K maybe, but hard to see it right now. Somebody is propping up (cartel. blockstream , chinese - whatever), but it doesn't want to go down. Also market makers are colluding...(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Aug-19 04:02 AM
D_o_N Hi! Let's peercoin already drive 10 cents. There is a place for him
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Aug-19 05:33 AM
Hasimov lol
Peerchemist is this the guy who sold at 25c?
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HighLow 10-Aug-19 06:24 AM
doesn't matter the price on dollar(edited)
at the end you trade btc or dollar
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Aug-19 08:08 AM
D_o_N well, let's go down, still pull yourself up ...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 11-Aug-19 06:22 AM
Hasimov No one is buying anything
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 11-Aug-19 07:58 AM
Marjorie C:\bulk_post\img19182.jpg
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 05:02 AM
Sentinelrv Peercoin trading is now live on CryptoBridge: https://twitter.com/cryptobridge/status/1160827712459681792?s=21
We are happy to announce that @PeercoinPPC is now trading on CryptoBridge. You can access $PPC markets on https://t.co/gtoOSc0I3i 💥 🚀
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Random_guy 12-Aug-19 07:10 AM
seriously who did this ? 😂 😂
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peerchemist 12-Aug-19 07:10 AM
that's me selling my peercoins
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Random_guy 12-Aug-19 07:13 AM
i'm shocked, if for you PPC beat the Bitcoin you can easily get a sell order at 2BTC/ 1PPC minimum peercoinhypers
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dirkmirk 12-Aug-19 07:47 AM
Meaningless metric..... I was TEMPTEd to buy PIVX for some reason once upon a time..........
Copy of Dash, Dash is a different spin of peercoin(POS, masertnode),
Cant change history......
PPC is the orginal and the best
Never bought PIVX BTW
Im COMFORTABLE holding ppc, for one reason, its an experimental currency just like LTC and BTC BUT had the right design from the get go.....
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dirkmirk 12-Aug-19 08:04 AM
PIVX was worth alot more than ppc once upon a time,
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 08:13 AM
Peerchemist masternodes help with pumps
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hedgedhog 12-Aug-19 08:22 AM
wee PPC
rising from the ashes
peercoinhypers
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dirkmirk 12-Aug-19 08:51 AM
Sad, once upon a fellow Auzzie pumped pivx on youtbe, David Hay....
Never hear from him anymore lol@
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 08:54 AM
Peerchemist quite shocking
Peerchemist so guys if possible provide some liquidity at crypto-bridge
Shamil hope it won't end up like another rudex
Peerchemist of course now, peercoiners are known as helpful, grateful and active people
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Peerchemist not
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dirkmirk 12-Aug-19 09:26 AM
You know what really, really,. disgusts me about crypto?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 09:27 AM
Peerchemist IDK ethereum?
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dirkmirk 12-Aug-19 09:27 AM
Youtube channels like TMI(The Modern Investor), seen how many "likes" that guy gets on his videos?
It'll be like 100 likes, 30 dislikes
no, 1,000 likes, 30 dislikes
Guy has no F##king clue,
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 09:29 AM
Peerchemist there are very few guys around who do have a clue
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dirkmirk 12-Aug-19 09:29 AM
the cryptocurrency news channel, I like that guy
Hes bullish and likes Vechain, likes XRP but puts shit on the shills
Crypto IMO is a zero sum game....
I think that dispite the flaws FIAT is okay
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money is meant to be spent and invested
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 09:33 AM
Peerchemist see my recent interview I touch those points
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Irritant 12-Aug-19 09:33 AM
What is the price for 1k likes these days?
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dirkmirk 12-Aug-19 09:35 AM
Good to see some volume on ppc, over $400K
RANT ALERT!
CURRENCY needs expansion!
When I explain PPC to people, its like BTC or LTC, purely desgined as a montary system, fixed supply is not sustainable
Ive seen BTC developers, Peter Todd?, wants to stop block halving in 2024 or 2028, keep expanding BTC, narrative change cant do it,
He knows BTC cant work without expanding supply,
It will be interesting how the network copes with reduced supply, will the network hashes keep expanding when the reward drops
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 09:42 AM
Peerchemist eventually Peercoin will soak up the hashrate
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dirkmirk 12-Aug-19 09:42 AM
Obviously the price of BTC needs to keep increasing, segwit reducs network fees etc
I think Segwit is not good for BTC longer term,
The dailly reward for BTC is huge,
The fees wont be keep the hashrate high enough
once the coin reward keeps dropping,
The narrative will change...............
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 09:46 AM
Peerchemist the spice must flow
Sentinelrv Dirkmirk, have you seen our latest script for video 4, which covers Peercoin’s economics?
Hi, I’m Chronos, and welcome to Part 4 of the Peercoin Primer. Peercoin is one of the world’s most established cryptocurrencies, and each video in this series will explore a different aspect of it. Show overview onscreen: Part 1: Launch Part 2: Security Part 3: Benefits...
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Peter 12-Aug-19 10:48 AM
most of people dont care
in practice most of them took fiat money back some even millions with them and just said sayonara in 2018(edited)
ppc still isnt flaw-proof from this - when hashrate is rising it auto halves block rewards, so in practice it's limiting possible hashrate automaticaly
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Irritant 12-Aug-19 10:55 AM
I think it is limiting the possible block reward
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Random_guy 12-Aug-19 11:00 AM
reply to Irritant: that's what i have read
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Random_guy 12-Aug-19 04:55 PM
i want to buy PPC on cryptobridge somebody want to sell ??
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captainbuckkets 12-Aug-19 05:05 PM
It doesn't halve the block reward, it just makes the blocks harder to get last I checked
Mining just becomes inefficient
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teek 12-Aug-19 05:56 PM
no it does
every 4x difficulty goes up
block reward halves
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captainbuckkets 12-Aug-19 06:10 PM
Hmmst
Interesting. I thought it was only the hash difficulty
Thought that was what limited it
Makes sense
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Irritant 12-Aug-19 06:24 PM
Well, difficulty and hash rate are tied to each other
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captainbuckkets 12-Aug-19 06:33 PM
So we are all saying the same thing
difficulty goes up which makes blocks two times as hard to get. Same difference
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teek 12-Aug-19 06:54 PM
no
block reward decreases
as well as blocks harder to get
both happen
the actual reward per pow block decreases
every 4x difficulty the reward is cut in half
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Peter 12-Aug-19 06:56 PM
@captainbuckkets thought you know about it
As I understand it's designed, so thus if there is low hashrate - there are bigger rewards to keep miners incentivized in keeping it. Although dunno, if it was the best solution, cuz emission in first 2-3 months was extremely fast (actually faster than Monero's one).(edited)
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captainbuckkets 12-Aug-19 06:58 PM
I don't mine and I haven't read into it in a long time
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teek 12-Aug-19 07:01 PM
@peter i think it was a great idea.. and its a very clever equlibrium.. self correcting, calculated every block no fall off "halving" event, smooth curve
got people involved
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Peter 12-Aug-19 07:05 PM
Well, I'm not convinced seeing 15M PPC produced in 2 or 3 months (from sep 2012 till nov 2012). That's like a hello message to pump and dump, like it did in the end of 2013.(edited)
Halving is even worse tho probably
I quite like Monero style, just it was too steep also - they could start from smaller reward and scale it slower, much slower.
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teek 12-Aug-19 07:07 PM
hmm i didnt think it was quite that agressive.. seems 15M in about 5 months i just checked
but yeah.. that is a bit much
the idea is good though
maybe just a tweak of the variables
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Peter 12-Aug-19 07:10 PM
So 15M in 5 months, and later 10M in 6 years? Lol
And I suppose that probably most of the coins are still "around" - no wonder it's so dumpable :P I mean those guys mined with a few cards thousands of coins/day, until asics came.(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 12-Aug-19 11:25 PM
K
Reply to Peerchemist there are very few guys around who do have a clue
who ? for example ? you can text to pm if you don't want to show them on public
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 13-Aug-19 12:56 AM
Shamil all these speculations while everything's open
Shamil i suppose
Shamil i think
Shamil instead of simply checking
Shamil it's very effective algorithm
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captainbuckkets 13-Aug-19 02:22 AM
It was an issue of semantics it seems
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Random_guy 13-Aug-19 07:39 AM
i wait for a seller...
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HighLow 13-Aug-19 11:26 AM
hahah
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dirkmirk 13-Aug-19 01:27 PM
Peercoin slowly inching up in price, hopefully gets in the top 200 again soon enough
Then top 100, in the top 100 would be a good place for Peercoin
Peercoin might have had high inflation once upon a time but thats how most coins were in those days
Theirs was a bit of controversy around Darkcoin when it launched supposedly a premine of about 1 million or so
peercoin 1
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 13-Aug-19 01:34 PM
Peerchemist most of dash (darkcoin) was mined in a single block
Peerchemist it used to have 84M total coins, than then "incident" happened and they have reduced the total coin count to 18M or so
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Demindiro 13-Aug-19 01:48 PM
How do you reduce the total amount of coins?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 13-Aug-19 01:52 PM
Peerchemist HF of course
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Demindiro 13-Aug-19 02:02 PM
Ah
Well
...
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Irritant 13-Aug-19 02:27 PM
Dash
... Indeed
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Aug-19 08:02 AM
C
Reply to Peerchemist HF of course
HF?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Aug-19 08:11 AM
GaIt Hard fork
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Aug-19 08:28 AM
C Ah thanks
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HighLow 17-Aug-19 06:26 AM
what would be the maximum number o PPC?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 17-Aug-19 06:27 AM
Peerchemist Impossible to know, depends on the on-chain txn count in the future I guess, and the state of the blockchain mining industry
Peerchemist some estimates predict about 40M, but in 2040's
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Irritant 17-Aug-19 06:41 AM
It is unlimited, but you can draw a curve on a chart and see where it goes , estimated some value will never be reached but always approached
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HighLow 17-Aug-19 11:45 AM
what happens if transactions grow in number?...is PPC burn?(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 17-Aug-19 11:47 AM
Peerchemist
Peercoin's fees are fixed at 0.01 PPC per kb and are burned. This is equivalent to paying the transaction fee to each Peercoin holder in proportion to their Peercoin holdings since the fee decreases the total supply of Peercoins. This property eliminates the need for a fee market on Peercoin's network and allows every transaction to get included in the very next block.
Documentation of Peercoin Cryptocurrency
K when lambo ?
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Random_guy 17-Aug-19 12:36 PM
when bitcoin will fall
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HighLow 17-Aug-19 01:25 PM
the only coin that is growing is bitcoin(edited)
it is so strange that people report themselves on usd and in reality they loose a lot of btc
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Peter 18-Aug-19 04:19 AM
you dont lose anything, if you trade usd pairs
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Nagalim 18-Aug-19 11:01 AM
so in about 750 years, we'll be giving out >10 mil peercoin every month just from PoS.
assuming all the things
year 2639 will be the first year we give out >10mil/month in PoS, again assuming all the things
it will likely be before that because of PoW
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Irritant 18-Aug-19 11:08 AM
need to increase the tx fees
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Nagalim 18-Aug-19 11:09 AM
the biggest assumptions are no tx fees, rfc0011 is implemented, and PoW drops out
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Irritant 18-Aug-19 11:09 AM
or lower pos reward
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Nagalim 18-Aug-19 11:09 AM
nah, i think it's fine. that's like 10 generations from now.
human generations
*20 generations
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Irritant 18-Aug-19 11:10 AM
if humans still exist
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mperkins 18-Aug-19 01:52 PM
I like your really-long-term thinking @Nagalim peercoinhypers
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Random_guy 18-Aug-19 02:34 PM
+1peercoin(edited)
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dirkmirk 18-Aug-19 09:18 PM
10 million ppc in 750 years?
It doesnt matter, 1% is so low, FIAT supply is going to be criminal
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dirkmirk 18-Aug-19 09:26 PM
I think fans of PPC are a pragmatic bunch,
I like to think that way lol!
Mightve been some back in 2013 but I never really saw many people saying its going to $100,000 a coin kind of thing, you wouldnt blame them either because their weren't many altcoin options,
I like that most people here are realistic with what PPC might be worth in the future, speculating, at the end of the day if PPC increases with inflation thats okay, if it does better, great!
Thats what Crypto is all about, increasing in value relative to fiat
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Nagalim 18-Aug-19 10:09 PM
*10 mil/month in 619 years(edited)
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dirkmirk 18-Aug-19 10:14 PM
Which is still Sweet F##K all
It wont matter anyway, PPC looks like a good investment for my lifetime, the way the world population is increasing and people rising from poverty, '
If Nuclear armageddon hits and wipes out 99% Crypto and everything else doesnt matter
99% of the population
In that scenario every man and his dog might own an Itailian supercar, if a superbug hits and not the nuke
Scarcity is only relevant to human population, nothing more
Gold would be in huge supply humans suffer from the superbug, you should invest in crypto if you believe the human population keeps growing
I'll rephrase, you should only invest in speculative assets if you believe the human population keeps increasing
Well speculative investments that are designed with an artificial supply like crypto, gold is gold but always digging out more, what could be valuable in the future is anyones guess, If we went down to 70 million people what would be valuable is anyones guess, crypto certainly wouldnt....
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 19-Aug-19 01:43 AM
Michael Lee Just saw the analysis from Alanmaster in tradingview.
Michael Lee So I bought some
Michael Lee He said that it's possible for ppc to have 8300% increase
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hedgedhog 19-Aug-19 01:48 AM
kek
will be a multimillionaire if that happens
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 19-Aug-19 01:50 AM
Peerchemist better start shilling baby
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dirkmirk 19-Aug-19 10:51 PM
Poloniex depositing a heap of trading pairs but still have XPM with 24 hour volume of all exchanges of like $15,000, continues to make no sense
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HighLow 20-Aug-19 02:09 AM
until I don't gather 1mil PPC I'll not find my peace
let it drop to several cents and I'll eat it alive hahahaha
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Irritant 20-Aug-19 05:03 AM
eating it alive will make it go to the moon
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Irritant 20-Aug-19 01:53 PM
i will put my balls on the line and show market who's daddy
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roadcrypto 20-Aug-19 01:58 PM
🙂 you quoting that video?
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Irritant 20-Aug-19 02:09 PM
yes
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roadcrypto 20-Aug-19 07:14 PM
oups. wrong channel 😂
@Irritant quick before it gets deleted 😂
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Irritant 22-Aug-19 03:42 PM
did litecoin halvening do anything to the price? i dont see anything on the chart, was it priced in from the start?
btw we have a #memes channel
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Aug-19 03:51 PM
Peerchemist Yes let's talk Litecoin in #memes
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Peter 22-Aug-19 04:07 PM
ltc halving pumped price from low 20s to 140
usd
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roadcrypto 22-Aug-19 05:14 PM
what's a #memes ?
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Irritant 22-Aug-19 06:17 PM
...
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roadcrypto 25-Aug-19 01:14 PM
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 02:43 PM
is the foundation selling ppc on the market, or what's the deal with that?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 02:46 PM
Peerchemist Nope
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 02:53 PM
so i'm assuming expenses are kept to a minimum like the website and such and anyone who gets a donation for their contribution just... keeps the ppc?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:00 PM
Peerchemist Well who knows what people who get the payment do
Peerchemist Can't blame anyone to pay for their meal right?
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:01 PM
no, but i'm asking what the deal is... i'm not saying "don't do it, you're not allowed", so don't get defensive because that's going to get me on the attack
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:03 PM
Peerchemist I'm not getting defensive just answering your question
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:03 PM
ok.
so..
peercoin foundation gets donation in PPC and BTC.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:03 PM
Peerchemist Correct
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:04 PM
foundation has very little costs, i'm assuming? (not counting the devs)
then you want to give your volunteer devs a coin toss for their good work and devs need to put food on table, that's understandable. how much of the coins that get donated are potentially on the market? not asking what the dev would do with his coins specifically, but say 80% ends up in dev hands, it's a fair assumption that a majority of that 80% ends up on the market sooner than later (like a miner can't really hoard)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:09 PM
Peerchemist Foundation finances are public
Peerchemist But please let's move to general channel about this topic
Peerchemist More people will see it
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:11 PM
i have general muted. too much chatter
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:11 PM
Peerchemist Very well
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:11 PM
first thing I see 😂
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:11 PM
Peerchemist Of course
Peerchemist So volunteer devs get nothing, they are volunteers
Peerchemist There are two paid people on board, that is backpacker and buckkets
Peerchemist Total amount per month is about 4500 usd worth
Peerchemist Which is well covered by the donations
Peerchemist Forum expense is like 1$ a day
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:14 PM
gotcha. thanks
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:14 PM
Peerchemist Outstanding expenses are stuff like those recent videos, but all 5 will cost like 3k usd or so
Peerchemist Then there is foundation domicile address (mailbox) which is like 2k a year
Peerchemist But yea it's public you can check everything on the blockchain
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:15 PM
i was more wondering about the sell pressure from dev payments..
since it's usually the biggest expense
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:16 PM
Peerchemist It's not like we pay our devs a decent salary xD
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:17 PM
salary could be worth alot more if price went up and they kept their coins instead of selling them on the market
not really my business what they do with it though
you can only have so many peercoin to btc ratio
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:18 PM
Peerchemist Yeah it's not fair from anyone to force them to do anything
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:18 PM
if someone wanted to sell cheap though...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:18 PM
Peerchemist But in cases when devs need pump to get paid, it usually ends up with PnD game by the devs themselves
Peerchemist Surprisingly, such coins actually fare better by the market cap now than peercoin
Peerchemist OK. Not all of them but I see a few around(edited)
Peerchemist Also we don't have out devs shilling the coin, which I like
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:20 PM
i'm not looking for a pump. I want to go slow and steady upward
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:20 PM
Peerchemist It's not shitcoiny if you know what I mean
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:20 PM
sir.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:20 PM
Peerchemist Sir
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:20 PM
yeah, i know what you mean 😂
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:21 PM
Shamil i only sell when i really need fiat
Peerchemist And he lives in Tuva so he can live with 2.5$ a day
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:24 PM
wha?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:24 PM
Peerchemist Yeah we got some cheap devs
Shamil only need money for krokodil
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 03:31 PM
i don't like putting coins on exchanges otherwise i'd be putting up support
i know we're on that bitshares clone but they started doing regulations..
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 03:53 PM
Peerchemist Kyc?
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 04:13 PM
not sure. i got whatever i had there out
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 06:07 PM
Viviana tphck nwrofn oaykt
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captainbuckkets 27-Aug-19 06:08 PM
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 06:08 PM
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captainbuckkets 27-Aug-19 06:08 PM
I see
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mperkins 27-Aug-19 06:15 PM
"This is not a shitcoin. Sir." I think this is going to be a meme 😂(edited)
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captainbuckkets 27-Aug-19 06:19 PM
He loves to say "Sir" since thats all the messages we get
I get "Bro"
Long $BRO, short $SIR
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 06:24 PM
Peerchemist:
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 06:25 PM
[deleted comment] 😐(edited)
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captainbuckkets 27-Aug-19 06:27 PM
At least the ICO shilling has slowed
Used to be far more frequent. There was spam in all the channels once every 30m or so
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 06:31 PM
Peerchemist Yea icos are dead
Peerchemist Another day someone asked me when will we do IEO to gain some funds
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captainbuckkets 27-Aug-19 06:36 PM
I know, I still have people asking as well
Seems like financial suicide
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 07:01 PM
wen race wars sirs
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peerchemist 27-Aug-19 07:41 PM
@roadcrypto I think you have tried to reason the price drop with foundation activity, I hope I've steered you away from that thought as the foundation really does not have enough to matter
beside, everyone on the foundation board is well aware that peercoin is undervalued by factor of 20 to 50x
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roadcrypto 27-Aug-19 07:41 PM
i wasn't worried, more curious
all good, home slice
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Aug-19 07:45 PM
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captainbuckkets 27-Aug-19 10:02 PM
Bear market traders talking about 1000%s(edited)
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roadcrypto 28-Aug-19 11:56 AM
😂
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Aug-19 09:55 AM
Sentinelrv CoinExchange.io has started their poll over again with some new rules for voting to keep out spammers. Check the tweet here: https://twitter.com/coinexchange_io/status/1167348641255702528?s=21
Cast Your Vote! Which coin would you like to see listed on https://t.co/9Rg5khUo5M? Head to our self hosted vote here: https://t.co/SWSkHKLPWH @PeercoinPPC @eSportBettingPR @ParticlProject @HydroBlockchain @FlitsNode @OrigoNetwork @remme_io @BitBall_Erc20 #blockchain #WIN...
Sentinelrv You can vote for Peercoin to be listed here: https://www.coinexchange.io/listing/vote/1
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roadcrypto 30-Aug-19 11:56 AM
have you guys looked at ltc/btc? 😂 Doge still hasn't taken the dive
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Peter 31-Aug-19 11:29 AM
good ltc is shit
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roadcrypto 31-Aug-19 12:25 PM
but sir
curious what you think of doge, dgb and xmr @Peter
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Peter 31-Aug-19 02:24 PM
XMR is interesting, but probably distribution is skewed, looking at how it was pumped.
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roadcrypto 31-Aug-19 02:35 PM
no comments on the first two? i've been following LOKI for a while and there's seems to be quite a bit of stigma around "monero forks", but from what I gather, the devs are still contributing to xmr codebase, so i see it more as a side-project.
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captainbuckkets 31-Aug-19 02:50 PM
LOKI was shilled on 4chan so i toss it in the scam bin
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Peter 31-Aug-19 02:53 PM
DGB shit
Doge useful for tips
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roadcrypto 31-Aug-19 03:11 PM
can't really stop people from shilling..
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Aug-19 03:11 PM
Shamil if you have unlimited bullets you can
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roadcrypto 31-Aug-19 03:11 PM
and it's focused on privacy, so obviously that crowd is gonna be attracted to it
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Irritant 31-Aug-19 03:13 PM
nuke 'em
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Cybnate 31-Aug-19 08:25 PM
It is a shame that privacy is associated with extremists. I followed Loki too, if it is a scam it is pretty elaborate. Like the messenger they are developing
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roadcrypto 31-Aug-19 08:29 PM
that's why i'm asking. the product seems legit
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Cybnate 31-Aug-19 08:29 PM
Not so easy for imposters as here at Discord. Perhaps something for us to consider too. Or even fork into Peercoin protocol(edited)
@roadcrypto Agree, it seems legit. But everyone just make sure you do your own due diligence. Loki listings are very shallow still
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Irritant 02-Sep-19 12:05 PM
BX.in.th will close soon Please withdraw PPC
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Peter 02-Sep-19 12:58 PM
Why people are so stupid to dump PPC to such rates there? It's PPC/BTC market so they can transfer whenever XDD
and have BTC back
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captainbuckkets 02-Sep-19 01:06 PM
Traders are irrational to reality
Otherwise everybody would be rich
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Peter 02-Sep-19 01:08 PM
could be bots tho
I saw constant dumping there
didnt seem to me that as humans
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Sep-19 02:24 PM
Shamil it is miners most likely, they don't hlod
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Irritant 08-Sep-19 04:10 PM
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roadcrypto 08-Sep-19 04:38 PM
be cool to have something more interactive-visual for distribution there was that highway one for btc / bch and there's the one with the world map and fiat purchases (for btc) but i'm thinking something different...
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Irritant 08-Sep-19 06:57 PM
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Sep-19 08:37 AM
Sentinelrv The Peercoin Foundation is pooling 6k PPC from the community to help pay for an official listing on the instant exchange platform Changelly. If you are interested in helping, please see this thread... https://talk.peercoin.net/t/pooling-6k-ppc-for-changelly-support/9735
The Peercoin Foundation has been in communication with the instant cryptocurrency exchange platform Changelly about a possible listing. The Foundation believes this is an important strategic exchange for Peercoin to be listed on for a number of different reasons. As shown in ...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Sep-19 09:10 AM
Sentinelrv Already down to needing 4K PPC. Thanks for the pledges everyone. Let’s keep it up!
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roadcrypto 09-Sep-19 10:55 AM
cool. but you can't have my ppc. let me know if we're missing some to make it over the finish line
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Sep-19 11:02 AM
Sentinelrv Currently we’re down to needing 2,500, so let’s see how it goes. I figure as long as everybody donates a small sum like 500 then it shouldn’t be too much strain on anybody. That seems to be what people are doing.
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roadcrypto 09-Sep-19 11:35 AM
isn't there a nice peerfund for this kind of stuff?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Sep-19 11:37 AM
Sentinelrv Yes, but did you read the thread? The Foundation is already contributing 10k PPC. We’re relying on the community for the remainder, which was originally 6k, now down to 2,500 due to recent pledges.
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roadcrypto 09-Sep-19 11:42 AM
i skimmed
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 09-Sep-19 02:04 PM
Shamil too many letters for millennials
Shamil doesn't fit into the stack
Peerchemist how much is the stack?
Peerchemist 160 chars? 140?
Shamil mine is 70 because of utf(edited)
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Irritant 09-Sep-19 02:27 PM
twitter increased to 280 didnt they
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Sep-19 07:10 AM
Sentinelrv 1,100 PPC left to gain Peercoin support at Changelly. Check here if interested in helping... https://talk.peercoin.net/t/pooling-6k-ppc-for-changelly-support-1-100-ppc-left-to-go/9735
The Peercoin Foundation has been in communication with the instant cryptocurrency exchange platform Changelly about a possible listing. The Foundation believes this is an important strategic exchange for Peercoin to be listed on for a number of different reasons. As shown in ...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 10-Sep-19 09:24 AM
Sentinelrv 600 PPC left to go! 😁
peercoinhypers 2
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roadcrypto 13-Sep-19 11:43 AM
dat listing funding target get hit?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 13-Sep-19 11:44 AM
Sentinelrv Yes
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roadcrypto 13-Sep-19 11:44 AM
cool beans
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mperkins 13-Sep-19 12:35 PM
Niice!
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Random_guy 16-Sep-19 09:50 AM
That was a pump and dump, no ?
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captainbuckkets 16-Sep-19 10:28 AM
If there is less liquidity than any buyer, price may move rapidly and usually arbitrage will bring the price rapidly back to where it was more or less
Goes for any market. Probably someone buying in
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Random_guy 16-Sep-19 11:32 AM
yep, all my sell order was take, from 3050 to 3350 sat and the price had reache the 3500 satso far
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captainbuckkets 16-Sep-19 12:13 PM
You have to check the spread and book depths sometimes. There are always hidden orders too
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Random_guy 16-Sep-19 12:20 PM
yep i play with the trading bots when i see one and the reduce the difference between the sellers and buyers(edited)
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captainbuckkets 16-Sep-19 12:21 PM
Nice. Yeah I mean in general, the all of crypto is super illiquid so little moves sometimes happenj
Will go away as liquidity returns
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Random_guy 16-Sep-19 12:29 PM
yeah but that help me and make 2 to 10% on my different trades 😁 peercoin(edited)
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captainbuckkets 16-Sep-19 01:29 PM
True
Very true
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Irritant 16-Sep-19 01:38 PM
Beyond true
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roadcrypto 16-Sep-19 02:47 PM
what?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 17-Sep-19 08:15 AM
Sentinelrv Part 4 of the Peercoin Primer video series has now been released! This episode covers Peercoin's economic model and the benefits of limited inflation. Watch Part 4 now! https://youtu.be/uhVJKAvl1qA
Peercoin is the pioneer of Proof-of-Stake, a blockchain consensus algorithm that provides efficient, sustainable security and user governance, allowing for a...
Part 4 of the #Peercoin Primer video series has now been released! This episode covers Peercoin's economic model and the benefits of limited inflation. Watch Part 4 now! https://t.co/BTc2NMJ7wz $PPC #crypto #blockchain #Bitcoin $BTC #economics #proofofstake
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roadcrypto 23-Sep-19 10:11 AM
southxchange isn't sending PPC. they did for a while, but not since their update and wallet became online. 2 days and no answer from support. been waiting about a week for the withdraw..
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captainbuckkets 23-Sep-19 11:26 AM
@roadcrypto okay. Was planning on reaching out to them today anyway. I'll ask the admin
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roadcrypto 23-Sep-19 11:40 AM
danks
peercoin 🔨
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captainbuckkets 23-Sep-19 12:17 PM
Sent him a note
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Cybnate 24-Sep-19 03:22 AM
We are doing some deep diving today (not the only ones bTW)
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roadcrypto 24-Sep-19 03:23 AM
beep boops
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Cybnate 24-Sep-19 03:26 AM
BTC chills?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Sep-19 03:50 AM
Peerchemist bubble popped?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Sep-19 08:18 AM
REMINDER: #Peercoin hard forks in 1 week. Make sure you upgrade your wallet to v0.8 before Oct 1st. Instructions located here: https://t.co/l21mjE76tT $PPC
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RobertLloyd 24-Sep-19 09:12 AM
Why is Peercoin on Twitter called "no coin giveaways"?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Sep-19 09:30 AM
Sentinelrv Because we were having an issue with scam comments about fake Peercoin giveaways. All crypto accounts were suffering from it on Twitter. Notice Vitalik’s profile says “Non-giver if Ether.” It seems Twitter has mostly taken care of the problem now, so maybe the warning is no longer necessary.
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roadcrypto 24-Sep-19 11:30 AM
it's just ded in the crypto-world. scammers went away. you still see some sometimes. like Binance or McAfee clones
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captainbuckkets 24-Sep-19 12:33 PM
The airdrops went away also
ICOs requiring KYC for airdrops made it harder
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RobertLloyd 24-Sep-19 12:52 PM
I think it best of "no coin giveaways" comes out. The official Peercoin twitter should be just "Peercoin".(edited)
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Cybnate 24-Sep-19 02:44 PM
There is one amusing thing a central banker, bitcoiner and alt coiner have in common. They all believe the others are in a bubble.
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Irritant 24-Sep-19 03:36 PM
Oh nooooo
Arrrgggg
📉
Game over guys
Let's go home
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Random_guy 24-Sep-19 03:57 PM
for Bitcoin yep
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 24-Sep-19 03:58 PM
Alexander What if some one have sold his home and bought ppc ? Where to go? :)
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Random_guy 24-Sep-19 03:58 PM
but for peercoin...
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Irritant 24-Sep-19 04:15 PM
Trump sold his bitcoins
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Cybnate 24-Sep-19 06:32 PM
He is not buying PPC yet
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roadcrypto 25-Sep-19 12:01 AM
still nadda from Southex 😦
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captainbuckkets 25-Sep-19 12:05 AM
Oh right
Said they were having an issue with the wallet. We tried to help but he said they were resolving it. He said in the meantime, you can reach out here: http://southxchange.freshdesk.com Sorry, had a lot of messages today
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 26-Sep-19 07:31 AM
Sentinelrv Instant exchange platform Changelly announces upcoming partnership with Peercoin! https://twitter.com/changelly_team/status/1177160886944968705?s=21
We are proud to announce a further partnership with @PeercoinPPC - one of the earliest pioneering blockchains and inventors of #PoS protocol. All Changelly users will be able to swap $PPC for dozens of #crypto and buy it with a bank card. Keep watching our news🙂
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Irritant 27-Sep-19 07:18 AM
alt season?
recession is coming
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Sep-19 02:47 PM
Jason(edited)
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dirkmirk 27-Sep-19 04:31 PM
What expression is that face?
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roadcrypto 29-Sep-19 07:25 PM
southx just sent the coins..
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Sep-19 06:16 AM
Sentinelrv 1 DAY LEFT UNTIL v0.8 HARD FORK! - Upgrade today if you haven't done so already! https://twitter.com/PeercoinPPC/status/1178610993871630336?s=20
#Peercoin will hard fork to v0.8 on Tue, Oct 1st at 12:00 UTC. Upgrade today if you haven't already done so. Instructions here: https://t.co/l21mjE76tT $PPC #crypto #proofofstake #SegWit #LightningNetwork
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Sep-19 07:03 AM
artem (forwarded by artem): hi friends, have a problem, my wallet can not connect to network last 10 days. Can bi problems with hardfork?
artem (forwarded by artem) windows 10
artem (forwarded by artem):
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Nagalim 30-Sep-19 08:15 AM
Add explorer.peercoin.net as a node
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Sep-19 09:18 AM
artem
Reply to @Nagalim Add explorer.peercoin.net as a node
how??
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Irritant 30-Sep-19 11:33 AM
to peercoin.conf
in %APPDATA%/Peercoin
like addnode=explorer.peercoin.net
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captainbuckkets 30-Sep-19 12:21 PM
@roadcrypto glad to hear. Sorry about the delay. Did they ever explain?
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roadcrypto 30-Sep-19 12:54 PM
you better be sorry, @captainbuckkets this is all your fault! you ruined my life!
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captainbuckkets 30-Sep-19 12:55 PM
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Random_guy 30-Sep-19 01:15 PM
it seem that someone really want to buy 😮
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Sep-19 01:32 PM
Billionaire check bittrex there is order for 256k
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Random_guy 30-Sep-19 01:35 PM
yes but "only" at 2647 sats
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Sep-19 01:37 PM
Billionaire yeah but it's there for a long time
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Random_guy 30-Sep-19 01:38 PM
i think too
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Oct-19 07:26 PM
john lrfbr fxif azizorp
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roadcrypto 01-Oct-19 07:45 PM
jeabus @ southx
all the way to 0.45 btc / ppc
...and I had no sell orders. f*
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captainbuckkets 01-Oct-19 07:50 PM
whew
fat finger
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Oct-19 11:22 PM
Tyler nnrrtjyaw am py i
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captainbuckkets 01-Oct-19 11:57 PM
?
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roadcrypto 02-Oct-19 12:00 AM
phat fingers?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Oct-19 04:50 AM
bhldev How to upgrade stakebox?
Shamil good question
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Oct-19 05:02 AM
Shamil
Reply to bhldev How to upgrade stakebox?
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didarmetu 03-Oct-19 12:43 AM
Fibercoin has successfully set for a Peercoin hard fork to v0.8 (Codename Mantis). Have good trade. https://fiberchange.com/market/FBC-PPC
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hedgedhog 03-Oct-19 08:27 PM
@maramthew why would you do that? ohfuck
you're using an escrow?
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Irritant 04-Oct-19 04:41 PM
Very low volatility today
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Irritant 04-Oct-19 08:19 PM
(also on the chat)
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captainbuckkets 04-Oct-19 08:28 PM
Sometimes it be like that. I don't really check the charts that often
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Irritant 04-Oct-19 08:35 PM
you have to check constantly
or else you get this
the more you check the charts the more they move
quantum mechanics 101
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dirkmirk 04-Oct-19 11:10 PM
Wonder where the low is, I saw 25 cents, if Bitcoin crashes we could be headed to record lows
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Cybnate 10-Oct-19 02:42 AM
When Bitcoin soars, we can hit $1😀
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dirkmirk 14-Oct-19 08:41 AM
Maybe $30, 100 bagger
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 14-Oct-19 10:01 AM
C
Reply to @dirkmirk Maybe $30, 100 bagger
You sweet summer child
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roadcrypto 14-Oct-19 06:55 PM
needs good volume to sustain a higher marketcap
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roadcrypto 14-Oct-19 08:09 PM
speaking of volume... let's get a community bot or something 😂
accumulates ppc but is focused on volume and spread. i have no clue where to start with that shiite
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Random_guy 14-Oct-19 08:21 PM
you mean a trading bot made for long term hodl? that could be interesting
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roadcrypto 14-Oct-19 08:23 PM
well, trading bots accumulate in one direction or another
"more usd", "more btc"
since it's a community bot, it could be more focused on volume and spread but programmed to accumulate ppc, not btc.
just a thot
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roadcrypto 17-Oct-19 01:51 AM
what we need is games.
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captainbuckkets 17-Oct-19 02:04 AM
like games you spend crypto in?(edited)
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roadcrypto 17-Oct-19 02:13 AM
yeees
more specifically, ppc
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 19-Oct-19 03:49 AM
Rose Hello
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roadcrypto 19-Oct-19 08:35 PM
bonjuuur
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Irritant 21-Oct-19 11:29 AM
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roadcrypto 21-Oct-19 04:12 PM
what is this?
hashtag no context
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467433319383040000/635000498411274249/73475101_766756570416621_8317996611644948480_n.jpg(edited)
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well, spoiler alert failed
not really #nsfw but possibly offensive to some people?
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captainbuckkets 21-Oct-19 04:23 PM
nah its fine
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Irritant 21-Oct-19 04:24 PM
maybe if they dont get it
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captainbuckkets 21-Oct-19 04:27 PM
well that would really make them the joke then
but also nonmemers arent people
xd
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roadcrypto 21-Oct-19 05:41 PM
😂
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didarmetu 21-Oct-19 10:55 PM
support PPC here
sell and buy
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roadcrypto 22-Oct-19 01:29 AM
only sell and buy? what a 2 dimensional market 😐
is your only base pair fibercoin? how odd
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Irritant 23-Oct-19 09:11 AM
btc dumps
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 23-Oct-19 09:22 AM
Peerchemist so all as usual?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 23-Oct-19 09:55 AM
C Another day another dump 💩
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mperkins 23-Oct-19 10:10 AM
Welcome 🐻 markeeet
Maybe BTC will go to 0 one day
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 23-Oct-19 10:12 AM
Peerchemist People love to PnD with it, it will stay at least in a couple dollars per range
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roadcrypto 23-Oct-19 02:00 PM
doge best coin
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Irritant 25-Oct-19 09:44 PM
o_O
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roadcrypto 25-Oct-19 09:58 PM
😐
10k..
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captainbuckkets 26-Oct-19 02:24 AM
$btc
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Wat
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roadcrypto 26-Oct-19 02:54 AM
it hit 10k 😂
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 26-Oct-19 06:10 AM
Peerchemist Lmao
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captainbuckkets 26-Oct-19 12:50 PM
$btc
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Altpocket BOT 26-Oct-19 12:50 PM
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Rank: 1 Price USD: $9192.01 Price BTC: 1.00000000 BTC Price ETH: 50.99864792 ETH Market Cap: $165,588,391,018 24h volume: $46,550,655,673.6 Supply: 18,014,375 Change 1h: -0.26% Change 24h: 11.28% Change 7 days: 14.62%
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captainbuckkets 26-Oct-19 12:50 PM
Better
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CK 26-Oct-19 11:46 PM
feelsgoodman.jpeg
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Random_guy 27-Oct-19 06:51 AM
$BTC
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Altpocket BOT 27-Oct-19 06:51 AM
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Rank: 1 Price USD: $9272.73 Price BTC: 1.00000000 BTC Price ETH: 51.56255779 ETH Market Cap: $167,052,428,306 24h volume: $28,307,327,566.4 Supply: 18,015,462 Change 1h: -0.00% Change 24h: 0.54% Change 7 days: 15.93%
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Irritant 27-Oct-19 02:02 PM
so choyna
you know what to do
Donald Trump says the word China over and over. Subscribe to HuffPost Movie Mashups: http://goo.gl/8Md2G8 HuffPost Movie Mashups are a collection videos cele...
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roadcrypto 27-Oct-19 04:16 PM
$PPC
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Altpocket BOT 27-Oct-19 04:16 PM
Ended(edited)
Rank: 383 Price USD: $0.26867642 Price BTC: 0.00002769 BTC Price ETH: 0.00143893 ETH Market Cap: $6,907,767.396 24h volume: $56,629.409 Supply: 25,710,359.413 Change 1h: 1.11% Change 24h: 5.61% Change 7 days: 6.44%
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roadcrypto 27-Oct-19 04:17 PM
choyna?
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Random_guy 27-Oct-19 04:32 PM
$BTC
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Altpocket BOT 27-Oct-19 04:32 PM
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Rank: 1 Price USD: $9705.01 Price BTC: 1.00000000 BTC Price ETH: 52.00318764 ETH Market Cap: $174,846,616,219 24h volume: $31,776,993,027.4 Supply: 18,016,125 Change 1h: 0.26% Change 24h: 6.76% Change 7 days: 18.81%
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 29-Oct-19 12:03 AM
ZhiPing $ppc
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captainbuckkets 29-Oct-19 01:23 AM
Bummer it doesnt read it from the telegram side
Ill find a bot to do it
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Random_guy 29-Oct-19 07:00 AM
$PPC
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roadcrypto 29-Oct-19 12:57 PM
$PPC
$doge
$btc
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Random_guy 29-Oct-19 01:12 PM
-_-
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captainbuckkets 29-Oct-19 01:29 PM
Reeee
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$ppc
Work you dumb bot
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Oct-19 06:14 AM
D_o_N Hi! Well comrades, today we see PPC at 20 cents or lower?
Shamil hope so, going to buy some cheap ppc today
Shamil wish i could afford 100k
D_o_N
Reply to Shamil hope so, going to buy some cheap ppc today
and at what price is your "cheap"?
Shamil 20c is cheap for me
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Oct-19 08:15 AM
D_o_N PPC confidently goes down
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roadcrypto 30-Oct-19 12:21 PM
$ppc
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Oct-19 12:45 PM
Shamil almost time to buy for me
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roadcrypto 30-Oct-19 01:52 PM
alts look like they are bottoming out ™ not investment advice
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Irritant 30-Oct-19 01:59 PM
thanks anyway 🙂
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Oct-19 02:48 PM
Highest upward change 📈 last 24 hours: Real transaction value by +1107.53%. Highest downward change 📉 last 24 hours: Coins mined by -24.89% more on https://t.co/ObB4Uye5Gb #peercoin #ppc #proofofstake
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Oct-19 03:22 PM
Peerchemist lot of coins moved today
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Cybnate 31-Oct-19 03:52 AM
Have to pay the bills 🙂
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necro 31-Oct-19 06:02 AM
ppc easy 4c
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Oct-19 06:04 AM
Shamil can't wait
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dirkmirk 31-Oct-19 06:16 AM
Yeah ive always been buying the dumpers will run out of coins eventually
25,000 coins for 1 grand, fark.,..
Peercoin never got out of 2nd gear with regards to price action, im sure it will be targeted one day by pump and dumpers or someone savvy with a strong marketing push.
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Irritant 31-Oct-19 09:41 AM
Full disclosure: I lost 95% of all my crypto assets last month. Life can turn fast when you are not in the clear state of mind. Back to 0.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Oct-19 09:47 AM
Peerchemist He had 6 eth, 0.22 btc and tron airdrop
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Oct-19 10:01 AM
Shamil i lose that for breakfast
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Irritant 31-Oct-19 12:24 PM
heh
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Oct-19 02:58 PM
Robert
Reply to Peerchemist lot of coins moved today
The hike continues
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 31-Oct-19 08:44 PM
Jane Hello
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roadcrypto 01-Nov-19 07:39 PM
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captainbuckkets 02-Nov-19 12:47 AM
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roadcrypto 02-Nov-19 12:55 AM
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roadcrypto 02-Nov-19 08:57 PM
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captainbuckkets 03-Nov-19 01:54 AM
THE WHITEST KIDS U' KNOW SEASON 4 EPISODE 8
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Irritant 03-Nov-19 11:05 AM
price going up
volume is low tho
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roadcrypto 03-Nov-19 12:22 PM
$ppv
lo
$ppc
!ppc
fu bot
i hate when big candles make charts go stupid...
daily long term to btc still looks like crap. definitely needs marketing or something
15 minutes looks "good" but could look better. looks like it could be a bottom..
good as in it had it's 3 dumps then it picked up above a hump
dump and above the hump
so TA, very technical
i've been making good steaks lately.. not huge rewards, but that's good. when you compare it to shitcoin rewards, it seems alot more sustainable... if only the price wouldn't look like crap on the long term
there's not one coin i look at in fiat value other than btc. there's no such thing as "well it's doing good against the usd" it needs to climb in rank against other coins. returns are in btc only
there's lots of good posts about having a new dev in town - we need a little army of social media users
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captainbuckkets 03-Nov-19 12:32 PM
Look at higher timeframes
<12h will be the death of you
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roadcrypto 03-Nov-19 12:32 PM
...
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captainbuckkets 03-Nov-19 12:32 PM
In general
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roadcrypto 03-Nov-19 12:32 PM
just saying
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captainbuckkets 03-Nov-19 12:32 PM
Is this PPC?
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roadcrypto 03-Nov-19 12:32 PM
look at doge
it is
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captainbuckkets 03-Nov-19 12:33 PM
hmmst
DOGE is also run by a fat cartel lol
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roadcrypto 03-Nov-19 12:33 PM
i was just about to go outside - back in a bit / later
you're a fat cartel
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captainbuckkets 03-Nov-19 12:34 PM
kk lol
Ill look at the chart later
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roadcrypto 03-Nov-19 01:07 PM
lower mcap = more volatile but what i see here is people not taking ppc seriously as a currency
those 2 general support levels shoulda held. anyone who got in at the start and held through the pump because they liked the coin got fucked. sure, sell some... but you don't want your investment in the gutter indefinitely. eventually you just throw your hands in the air and give up. no point buying the dips anymore
i understand the project's gone through some rough patches with the dev, but now that the building community is active, there's no reason the level we're at should drop.. we should be steadily climbing toward to 50 or 20 mcaps at least... if it's seriously a good coin. I like the original PoS and the new life in the project - but the asic mining throws me off a bit. if it needs asics, why not just btc - especially looking at that chart
i'm not trying to "put this" on any of you guys - just telling it how I see it
cryptopia dying probably didn't help that last support zone
nobody i talk to uses bittrex since like 2016, 17
"surprise KYC or you can't have your coins!" fu, bittrex
here, let me put a digital copy of my id online on some unknown server for you to "check"
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captainbuckkets 03-Nov-19 01:49 PM
I have to use Bittrex
Last US exchange that hasn't closed my account
Whats this about the asic mining?
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roadcrypto 03-Nov-19 01:57 PM
why use a coin that needs asic that isnt bitcoin?
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captainbuckkets 03-Nov-19 03:25 PM
It doesn’t need, it just is compatible.
Older generations of miners then mine PPC which is why we get ASICS on the network too
Even some new ones too
I assume
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Irritant 04-Nov-19 06:21 PM
it is happening
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captainbuckkets 04-Nov-19 06:40 PM
uh oh southxchange
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Irritant 04-Nov-19 06:42 PM
+647.94%
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roadcrypto 04-Nov-19 06:49 PM
crap, i was gonna buy a few more there
i slacked last night 😦
oh, it was a dump 😂 dang, hoss
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captainbuckkets 04-Nov-19 07:49 PM
fat finger perhaps
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Irritant 05-Nov-19 01:10 PM
something wrong with coinegg and southexchange?
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captainbuckkets 05-Nov-19 01:11 PM
@Irritant whats up with CoinEgg?
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Irritant 05-Nov-19 01:12 PM
$0.408521
and southexchagne has it pegged to the dollar
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Nagalim 05-Nov-19 01:14 PM
Southexchange was only a volume of 0.5ppc at $1
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Irritant 05-Nov-19 01:15 PM
CoinEgg is a world leading BTC trading platform, and offers exchange service between and BTC. Because BTC is a hard anchor for US Dollar, so users could convert PPC or PPC to BTC, and BTC to legal tender. CoinEgg supports various cryptocurrencies trading and investment, incl...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Nov-19 01:15 PM
Shamil weird, that ppcusd(g) peg pair looks as if usd(g) is not very pegged
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captainbuckkets 05-Nov-19 01:24 PM
I think someone fat fingered the southxchange book. As for coinegg I dont know
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Nov-19 01:25 PM
Shamil i'd say there's something wrong with coinegg withdrawals
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Irritant 05-Nov-19 01:27 PM
someone call them on the phone?
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captainbuckkets 05-Nov-19 01:28 PM
Speaking of them I dont think they responded to my last email...
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Irritant 05-Nov-19 01:37 PM
better idea: contact all other exchanges, tell them they have the price wrong 😛
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captainbuckkets 05-Nov-19 01:42 PM
mmmmm you do it
Im the one that keeps emailing them saying to put it lower so idk
:)
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Irritant 05-Nov-19 01:43 PM
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captainbuckkets 05-Nov-19 01:43 PM
I would have gotten away with it
if it wasnt for you meddling kids
and that dog
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roadcrypto 05-Nov-19 03:44 PM
coinegg 😠
surprise KYC on withdraw, no warnings on depo
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Nov-19 03:54 PM
Shamil typical
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roadcrypto 05-Nov-19 11:17 PM
seems sketchy
not sketchy at all
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captainbuckkets 05-Nov-19 11:40 PM
Check the URL
Scam
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 05-Nov-19 11:47 PM
Peerchemist lol
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Random_guy 06-Nov-19 06:18 AM
if you test to click on the Binance logo it will do nothing
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roadcrypto 06-Nov-19 08:11 PM
livecoin moved up in ppc trading volume
last time i used them, it worked.. like a year ago.. no surprise kyc
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captainbuckkets 06-Nov-19 08:55 PM
I tried my bittrex again and had no issues
so fingers crossed that I can keep using it
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roadcrypto 06-Nov-19 09:03 PM
snort
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mperkins 07-Nov-19 01:08 PM
Too much scams in this field
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captainbuckkets 07-Nov-19 02:06 PM
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Yeah I mean I'll be honest I fell for it once
Long time ago
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 07-Nov-19 02:18 PM
Shamil lol
Shamil so that's why they are still around
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captainbuckkets 07-Nov-19 02:22 PM
:)
Greed will get you
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mperkins 07-Nov-19 02:27 PM
I think everyone will fall into it when they start
I also get Irritant as an impersonation but I've only send 10 PPC because I know it was certainly a scam
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Irritant 07-Nov-19 02:36 PM
never send PPC to me
or someone impersonating me
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captainbuckkets 07-Nov-19 02:36 PM
Yeah I will never ask for anything in DMs like that
But I got got because I was only interested in BTC and I didn't understand how airdrops worked and ETH addresses with ERC20 were new at the time
But bull market will start soon
BTC looks better and better
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roadcrypto 07-Nov-19 03:54 PM
send me 1k PPC, you get 100% of it back minus fee in a month.
scam 1
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mperkins 07-Nov-19 05:21 PM
Well @Irritant too late I guess !
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Irritant 09-Nov-19 06:18 AM
coinegg again
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Goku 09-Nov-19 07:08 AM
@roadcrypto do you say livecoin has now kyc?
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roadcrypto 09-Nov-19 10:44 AM
no surprise kyc
if you don't see one upon registering, you shouldn't get a surprise later...
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Goku 09-Nov-19 11:06 AM
Ah ok, so no kyc right now
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captainbuckkets 09-Nov-19 12:18 PM
$btc
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Altpocket BOT 09-Nov-19 12:18 PM
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Rank: 0 Price: $8763.58 Market Cap: $158,009,916,337 24h volume: $23,023,185,739 Supply: 18,037,650 Change 24h: -16.57%
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captainbuckkets 09-Nov-19 12:18 PM
$ltc
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Altpocket BOT 09-Nov-19 12:18 PM
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Rank: 0 Price: $60.87 Market Cap: $3,869,406,189 24h volume: $2,493,556,259 Supply: 63,643,320.778 Change 24h: 1.04%
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Random_guy 09-Nov-19 12:22 PM
$ppc
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Goku 09-Nov-19 12:25 PM
$btc
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Altpocket BOT 09-Nov-19 12:25 PM
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Rank: 0 Price: $8782.25 Market Cap: $158,301,286,002 24h volume: $23,017,276,808 Supply: 18,037,650 Change 24h: 5.31%
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Random_guy 09-Nov-19 12:27 PM
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Goku 09-Nov-19 12:33 PM
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Random_guy 09-Nov-19 12:34 PM
$PPC
press f to repay respect
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Goku 09-Nov-19 12:38 PM
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Irritant 09-Nov-19 12:49 PM
$ppc
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roadcrypto 09-Nov-19 12:56 PM
n
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Goku 09-Nov-19 12:58 PM
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captainbuckkets 09-Nov-19 01:03 PM
The 24 hr change seems wrong for all of those
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roadcrypto 09-Nov-19 01:12 PM
get a new bot?
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captainbuckkets 09-Nov-19 01:14 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
its just weird because it said BTC was -16% then +5%
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captainbuckkets 10-Nov-19 05:01 PM
$ppc
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captainbuckkets 10-Nov-19 06:59 PM
yeah idk
weird
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HighLow 15-Nov-19 01:34 PM
I used Shazam to discover Sweet Dreams by La Bouche. https://www.shazam.com/track/2941099/sweet-dreams
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Irritant 21-Nov-19 10:22 AM
o_O
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 21-Nov-19 10:24 AM
Peerchemist Miners can't afford to keep the coins
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HighLow 22-Nov-19 03:14 AM
don't mine.. just stake... we don't need miners
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dirkmirk 22-Nov-19 04:31 AM
Don't you need mining to keep inflation low?
If mining difficulty drops the reward goes up
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Irritant 22-Nov-19 05:06 AM
'Dont Talk Just Kiss' by Right Said Fred was the 2nd single from their debut Platinum Album 'Up' Like Right Said Fred on Facebook @http://www.facebook.com/Ri...
"don't mine.. just stake..."
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necro 22-Nov-19 06:43 AM
ppc 4c coin
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 22-Nov-19 06:54 AM
D_o_N ahah, what did you do with the PPC?😀👍
D_o_N today break 15 cents?
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captainbuckkets 22-Nov-19 12:48 PM
@dirkmirk mining is the biggest source of inflation, but it’s okay because it’s not arbitrary. Even if the pow difficulty dropped, minting couldn’t compete so it would get very deflationary
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Irritant 22-Nov-19 01:59 PM
i dont understand
"even if difficulty dropped, minting couldnt compete so it would get very deflationary"
i think pow reward goes up when difficulty goes down is what dirkmirk is saying
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Random_guy 22-Nov-19 03:24 PM
for me the PoW reward had a max and min limit or so, like 20 to 200, because when the hashrate drop by 50% the reward move only of few PPC(edited)
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captainbuckkets 22-Nov-19 03:42 PM
@Irritant But minting can't compete in terms of new coin creation so it would relatively get deflationary, would it not?
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Irritant 22-Nov-19 04:53 PM
how? when difficulty (of pow blocks) goes down, the reward goes up
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dirkmirk 22-Nov-19 04:59 PM
I will never understand how POW & POS can "compete" with each other in peercoin, I always thought POS was constant(1%) and POW was variable due to mining(hasrate).
If I understand the inflation rate of peercoin correctly, I don't think the word "Compete" is an appropriate word when describing the hybrid system for peercoin, it implies that POS reward goes down and thats wrong
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Irritant 22-Nov-19 05:01 PM
pos cant "compete" in terms of number of coins that are created(edited)
but that doesnt matter, the question was about when pow difficulty goes down
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Nagalim 22-Nov-19 05:49 PM
When pow difficulty goes up by 16 times, pow reward cuts in half. So the relationship is logarithmic.
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dirkmirk 22-Nov-19 06:19 PM
Regardless just bought some more cheap coins, Peercoin doesnt stay under 20 cents for long....
If the past is anything to go by
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captainbuckkets 22-Nov-19 07:02 PM
My comment was about the amount not being able to compete
Miscommunication and its my appologies
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 23-Nov-19 10:16 AM
D_o_N hahahah, 14 cents
D_o_N at such a pace, such a coin as PPC will soon disappear
D_o_N nobody is interested in it already and nobody buys it
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Irritant 23-Nov-19 10:27 AM
why not
they find btc "too expensive"
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mperkins 23-Nov-19 11:48 AM
Time to buy more thats it
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 23-Nov-19 12:13 PM
Peerchemist Lol
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roadcrypto 24-Nov-19 10:15 AM
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Nagalim 24-Nov-19 09:45 PM
Bitcoin 12 cent coin
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HighLow 25-Nov-19 05:21 AM
nobody trusts coins anymore because they bought coins with btc and now they have less btc in their wallets... coins are like tulip bubble...this is valid for ppc and also for other coins too(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 25-Nov-19 05:29 AM
Peerchemist if people wanted btc should have just bought/kept the btc
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HighLow 25-Nov-19 05:49 AM
well that is what just happened they bought the coin... with btc...ppc owners sold out their coins and accumulated a lot of btc and after that they pumped btc... and now they are dumping btc... let's see now what coin comes next after finishing dumping btc. this is valid not only for ppc but for all coins(edited)
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Nagalim 25-Nov-19 04:33 PM
It's because many exchanges denominated their altcoin trades in btc.
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Irritant 26-Nov-19 11:01 AM
almost 20 cents again guise
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Nagalim 26-Nov-19 12:10 PM
Not really, coinegg and hotbit aren't really authentic prices in my opinion
Bittrex, hitbtc, the rock, livecoin all still at 16.5
Which is where they've been for days
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roadcrypto 26-Nov-19 01:25 PM
hotbit is a bit sketchy.. i have used and withdrawn from there but it has that liqui.io feeling
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HighLow 27-Nov-19 07:14 AM
why PPC is not listed on the major exchanges... like kraken to have direct market on USD?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Nov-19 07:30 AM
Peerchemist the big exchanges where peercoin was listed have since died off (btc-e, poloniex) and the new ones did not list it
Peerchemist AFAIK kraken did not want to list it in 2015 due to fears of low volume, they did try with namecoin but they delisted it soon after
Peerchemist peercoin lacks organized PnD groups to maintain the volume I guess
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 27-Nov-19 07:48 AM
Peerchemist anyway if you need direct link to actual FIAT, do therocktrading
Peerchemist they have EUR
Peerchemist actual eur, fully licenced
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Irritant 27-Nov-19 03:24 PM
I’ve been seeing a lot of Twitter FUD opining on miner capitulation in the last few days. This got me thinking… could the selling by the PlusToken scammers have had an abnormal effect on this market cycle?
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Peter 28-Nov-19 06:17 AM
@Irritant well, if it's even true then they were also a cause for the pumps in april-june.
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 28-Nov-19 06:21 AM
Peerchemist there is always two, the pump and the dump :D
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HighLow 29-Nov-19 05:46 PM
what's wrong with pump and dump?
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captainbuckkets 29-Nov-19 06:46 PM
99% of most market participants just lose
Besides, it’s fraud
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mperkins 29-Nov-19 10:02 PM
It's fraud but unfortunately it's impossible to stop. It seems like the whole cryptocoins are under this schema or am i wrong
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necro 30-Nov-19 04:09 AM
onspiracy theories are in play, but not in this case
ppc is straightforward
to bottom
hoho, lol-_-
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HighLow 30-Nov-19 06:22 AM
is this bottom?
I wander
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 12:23 PM
straitforward to the bottom 😂
p&d bad but ppc needs some support lovin
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 12:40 PM
🤘 peercoin 👌
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:06 PM
that's a rough-looking chart 😦
it needs a pump and stay up above some level
going above and staying in the 25k sat range seems unlikely without some marketing
i know, you guys don't like doge, but that's doge in blue there
20 to 30 sats at least has support..
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 01:09 PM
doge is upper? haha what the fuck
crypto is so unpredictable 😆
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:10 PM
you can say PPC is green and store of value all day, but if it can't hold against btc... nobody's gonna want to be "up in usd but down in btc" when btc hits 200k
i'm not trying to be harsh, i wouldn't say it if i didn't care ✨
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 01:11 PM
not sure about BTC at 200k anyway
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:11 PM
no?
150k?
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 01:12 PM
nobody knows
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:13 PM
right - well nobody's gonna get into PPC out of nowhere
i'm not saying it needs to be pumped - but that chart is sad and a sad chart doesn't attract more people
that means it's not done bottoming and eventually all you'll have is a doge pair 😐
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 01:14 PM
well it depends. Because what can I see right now if there are too many coins that are the same basically.
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:15 PM
and i see ppc not offering anything other coins can't do
half the coins out there let you stake in some way or another
you think people care about a utxo chain?
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 01:16 PM
that's right, now there many pos coins that do what peercoin did long time ago
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captainbuckkets 30-Nov-19 01:16 PM
Because they copied the code, sure
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:16 PM
ok.. but you getting creds? no
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 01:16 PM
yes that's peercoin's forks of course
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captainbuckkets 30-Nov-19 01:17 PM
Just saying
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:17 PM
i know, but just sayin that chart looks like shit
what can we do about it?
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 01:18 PM
lol it's not their faults I mean people choose what they want but once they will realize they made a mistake by choosing bad/shitty coins it will be too late I guess
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:20 PM
there's options..
i just get tired of telling people them and then nothing happens
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 01:32 PM
it's like the "coin team" are shy of telling people about their coin because they don't want to be pumping it, but meanwhile, people who beleive in their project suffer some losses. what you need is more outreach and engagement - the interviews are great and you need to have them there for references - but someone who knows about the project (can explain ppc in and out, i'm looking at you, @captainbuckkets ) - need to get in on the social medias... and not just posting stuff in your own reddit / twitter / facebook ~ you need to find where the people are talking and get in on the conversation and be all smoking a tobacco pipe while dishing out facts
so, staking is a good example - and i'm good at twitter, i wasn't a fan of reddit - but they both work the same
find where people are talking about staking (do a search or searches) and get in there as a person who knows their shit - not "i represent peercoin"
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 03:57 PM
I think market team is doing great on the "team advancement" update and technicals related but if you want more people then you're right the project needs to be marketered in other way. As it seems priority right now is development because that's important. I agree. Look there would be like 1/10 people that know crypto. Even less than know and understand crypto. Less and less than know, understand and write the code (the actual team). You need to understand that it will take time for people to understand all of this. It's like everything is so new it will take time and honestly I don't care about a low price because I know the team behind the project is far more advanced that many other projects that don't know their stuffs. In the end we all want mass adoption.
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captainbuckkets 30-Nov-19 04:00 PM
Sure, when the market isn't the way it is
Marketing money is essentially burnt right now because who are you even selling to?
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mperkins 30-Nov-19 04:43 PM
that's right
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captainbuckkets 30-Nov-19 04:51 PM
We are aware, but most things are just screaming into the void at this moment
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 05:13 PM
oh ffs
my huge rant didn't make it
stupid bot deleted it
anyway.. i get it. you're working on it
it doesn't address what i'm saying and it's something totally different
nor does it cost much - someone like you, Buckets, spending like 2hrs properly ENGAGING on social media, not posting stuff on the PPC channels...
what's that cost? 10k USD / month?
more brains bringing ideas, more people to look for bugs in the code, more people to secure the network, more people to talk about the project... you need this before it's "finished" because bitcoin isn't even finished... it works, right? there's devs working, right? people need to know, otherwise your adoption just kinda peters away into no volume, no listings, no on/offramps for people to care about your project, no matter how good it is
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 30-Nov-19 05:19 PM
Shamil roadcrypto is right
Shamil engagement is important
Shamil grow the community
Peerchemist So when donations? When engagement from you folks?
Shamil I think they are engaging alright
Peerchemist I can do a lot, just give me some support. Both financial and manpower
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captainbuckkets 30-Nov-19 05:42 PM
Bot shouldn't have deleted anything
There was nothing deleted according to the audit log
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 07:46 PM
i had written a huge paragraph and the bot said I posted it twice
i'd written it in one big message instead of ding ding dinging 10 lines into the channel
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Irritant 30-Nov-19 07:57 PM
maybe try the forum for stuff like that
talk.peercoin.net
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 08:46 PM
😐
no... it wasn't abnormally long and it's annoying having to say "engagement" to teams and getting the blank stare all the time
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Nagalim 30-Nov-19 08:53 PM
Be the team you wish to see
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roadcrypto 30-Nov-19 10:28 PM
ok, bye..
like i said - it's getting old telling people tricks to how they can get more people into the group and being treated like someone who doesn't respect the project. you're welcome for the feedback / pro tips on social media adoption.
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 12:31 AM
Roadcrypto, what are you doing for peercoin? I could whinge like you but it's up to the individual to make a difference
And I'm not doing much so I wouldn't criticize, offer suggestions sure but it's not right to lay blame on other individuals
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Dec-19 01:35 AM
Fernando Congratulations to everyone who benefited from the last post I shared yesterday.. I still need more people to benefit from it today, you want to give a try dm me and start earning as well.. it's free to join
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Dec-19 02:26 AM
GaIt (in reply to @roadcrypto)
my huge rant didn't make it
Yr rant made it fully on telegram though
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 09:57 AM
^ thanks
also, i havent been in here bitching, @dirkmirk - but i'm not surprised it's the only thing you notice 😉
because who likes critisism that their project is looking bad for investors?
i started with: I'm here and I care. if that's not good enough for you guys, kindly [omitted comment]
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 10:08 AM
if price doesn't matter - maybe one of you has 10 btc they dont need they'd like to give me?
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 10:32 AM
it's also a bad sign when people get defensive instead of wanting to brainstorm on how to address the issue
i didn't show up here because i bought high - PPC got delisted from a place I visit, so I came to see what's up and noticed there's active dev going on.. but as soon as you talk about price - the team has no clue, so people get defensive at suggestions and say things like: just do it yourself, what have you done for peercoin. well, I did try to socialize the place with memes, but it's not my job to make ppc great again - like i said in my rant - this would be better suited for someone who can thouroughly explain the project, but I guess all you guys are seeing is me bitching about the price, so yeah, keep getting defensive
maybe one of ten people in here can pump PPC with their infinite amount of BTC they have since price doesn't matter
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Dec-19 10:37 AM
Peerchemist who are you fighting against? I just read all the messages since yesterday and I don't see it
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 10:38 AM
i gave simple tricks that would basically cost nothing - but it's treated like i want to spend 1000 btc on "marketing" nobody's listening because hey, price doesn't matter - if you build something cool enough that 1000 other projects are copying, people will come, right?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Dec-19 10:39 AM
Peerchemist I understood what you are saying, and that is being done indeed
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 10:39 AM
people who say shit like "price doesn't matter" and "do it yourself if you want to advertise ppc"
it fuckin pisses me off
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Dec-19 10:39 AM
Peerchemist lot of that kind of subtle shilling was done by me at the recent CMC conference as well
Peerchemist speaking where it matters
Peerchemist problem is that nowadays nobody cares about crypto at all, so talking into the void is just not effective
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 10:40 AM
i'm not expecting to get rich overnight - all i want is some frigin support on the order book if there's no volume, there's not gonna be big investors because they can't get in and out - and like i was saying yesterday - we'll end up being a doge pair for kiddy-traders
again, @ peerchemist - i made good suggestions that aren't "talking into the ether"
if you want engagement, i can tell you exactly how to get it andi did
if you post stuff on your channels (like the PPC's reddit), no one's gonna see it except us someone, like buckets, who knows the project very well, could do searches on social medias and find out where the conversations are happening and get in there and talk about PPC.
you gotta find the conversations and get in there, otherwise you're just talking into the ether with no one listening
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Dec-19 10:45 AM
Peerchemist you cant have one guy to do that job, because it will look like a payed bot is doing the work
Peerchemist multiple, dozens of people are needed for such a task
Peerchemist otherwise you look cheap and fake
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 10:47 AM
ok then
...
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Dec-19 10:48 AM
Peerchemist wrong answer
Peerchemist the correct answer is: "ping me when you need backup"
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 11:30 AM
i get it, @peerchemist - if i was in a position to do it, i'd be right in there
i deleted my social media accounts, i left all the non-crypto discord..
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 11:37 AM
I regularly buy PPC from bittrex hopefully the exchange keeps the trading pair with btc
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 11:37 AM
you can only be hopeful for so long until the volume dries up - a handful of guys like us can't hold the order book
no volume = no big investors
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 11:37 AM
Exactly, what else can you do
people are selling
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 11:38 AM
get eyes on the project via adoption
and social media engagement
have something cool to offer..
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 11:40 AM
Yeah ive been meaning to make a start on my youtube channel for peercoin, talking about the history of crypto and monetary policy, how I thought in 2013 Peercoin had the best model, it was a little amatuerish at the start but the coin has proven resiliant.
I think it would also help if tried to use reddit or bitcointalk forums a bit more too
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:11 PM
like i've been saying: the trick to reaching more people (assuming you don't already have an audience), is to get in on the conversations. youtube channels, interviews, Medium.com writeups are all good for reference - but people don't see them unless they are already looking this way. find where the proof of stake discussion is happening and engage with people. (yes, i understand that I should be practicing what I preach, but that's a whole other subject) what other feature makes PPC special? find out where discussions are on "proper utxo chains" and go debate some digibyte shillers. defeating trolls levels you (and the brand you're promoting) up.
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:11 PM
All of that costs money
Thousands
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:11 PM
what?
are you high?
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:11 PM
All the interviews and youtube channels
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:11 PM
i'm..
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:11 PM
They email me asking for money to be on them
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:11 PM
did you read wtf i said?
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:11 PM
I'm just saying
like i've been saying: the trick to reaching more people (assuming you don't already have an audience), is to get in on the conversations. youtube channels, interviews, Medium.com writeups are all good for reference - but people don't see them unless they are already looking this way.
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:12 PM
i said all that shit is good for reference but it doesn't get more people
go on twitter, reddit... facebook? vk...
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:12 PM
I am the one they send the proposals to, but I'm saying it isn't free. Nobody gives anything for free
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:12 PM
free social medias
doing a search
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:12 PM
Yeah and I do my best to find those
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:12 PM
defeating trolls
does not.
cost.
thousands
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:13 PM
Of course not
But interviews do
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:13 PM
then wtf?>
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:13 PM
I have 40 emails asking for money for them
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:13 PM
dude
stop
just..
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:13 PM
I understand you are frustrated
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:13 PM
no, you don't
i'm frustrated you're missing the point
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:13 PM
You want me to do more
To make it more visible
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:14 PM
but ..
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:14 PM
But to do it free and outcompete the projects with millions in marketing
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:14 PM
i just typed a whole rant about how it's NOT about youtube videos and you come in here telling me it's gonna cost thousands. you're missing the point completly and there's not just you
so...
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:15 PM
"Go find open discussions about PoS"
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:15 PM
that doesn't cost thousands
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:15 PM
Okay
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:15 PM
and... there's other people beside you if it's too... burdensome
it cost about 2 to 3 hours of someone knowledgeable enough's time.. maybe twice a week if you don't want to put too much effort into it
it's hard to find a good volunteer, but you'd probably get someone to do it for a few shekels a month
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:16 PM
It is me who is mostly doing this, with Chem doing his best to find opportunities as well
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:17 PM
i get that
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:17 PM
Bear market is hard
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:17 PM
i get that too
but
low mcap with active dev...
you know you want some cookies 🍪
it needs to be promoted though - one look at that chart and it's pretty eish
there's hoards of people out there looking for 20usd per month in crypto for doing "little jobs"... it's not like the pool is dry
i know they aren't all quality, but i'm just sayin... if it's too much for you, you do it a bit to get some more people in here and eventually someone'll pick up the torch
i almost did, but i'm "busy" for lack of a better word and I deleted my social medias recently because ... well, i got better shit to do
i've done it at other places. it's not like "these types of people" won't show up - so you do it a little bit and maybe someone'll show up
but when tags that say "peercoin team" get defensive when people talk about price, well, a person like me feels like the burden would be placed on them, if he wanted to pick up the social media torch... why don't i just go with another coin where I can talk to people about how great it is, but i don't have to do all the work of promotingit
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 02:25 PM
You are free to do so
This is a community project
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 02:26 PM
yes, i know
and that's a defensive statement
anyway - i think Peerchemist understood what I was getting at, maybe you guys could have a lil pow-wow without me and figure something cool out ✨
can't kill trolls on the defense, sir frenn 🛡
like i keep saying - i wouldn't bother typing all that if i didn't care 😘
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 01-Dec-19 05:38 PM
GaIt @roadcrypto much love to you(edited)
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 06:34 PM
i'm assuming that's not sarcastic 😂 @galt next idea is some sort of game, but it always reverts to gambling and everyone gets annoyed. i think something simple could be built that works on block hashes / transaction IDs and that kind of thing. I know that up in igloo-land, a non-profit society can host gambling events as fund-raisers, hashtag just sayin. obviously an actual game would be better than some gambling website and PVP would be fantastic as opposed to player vs some bankroll, but beggers can't be choosers, ya? some easy example would be the card game "battle" where each player has a shuffled deck, the top card is flipped and whoever has the highest wins. it may be because i'm just a n00b - but this seems super simple to make with some kind of contract or open-source multi-sig something or other. 1st player sends funds to an address, some number is derived from the txid and locked into a contract until other player sends funds to a contract, his number is derived from txid, contract sends funds to the winner and keeps a percentage for fundraising purposes. it might not get used all the time, but at least it's a toy for the coins
there's a guy in some other coins' discord that had some gambling page built on txids, but i think it was player vs bankroll..
obviously someone familiar with pulling that data and posting it to a webpage could whip this up in a couple hours
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 06:51 PM
The concept that a few reddit posts could change the price is laughable to me. Those that can are doing what they can, and we are open to actual input instead of the 'do moar' that seems to be your only input here. You want someone (definitely not you, god forbid its you) to spend some time that they are clearly not spending on useful things to go troll reddit, a much better use of their time. The crypto world is currently dominated by whales, not small fish on reddit. That said, we do participate in conversations we see around the web. We just dont have the money to pay someone (or a band of someone's, as would be needed to be effective) to go troll reddit.
If you actually want to implement anew use case, forgive me but I dont think the trading channel on discord is the best place to pitch it.
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:09 PM
lol, the castle. i vaguely remember "ah, powerlines"
@Nagalim i would argue that there are people spending time on the internet wanting to know more about projects, who may have questions about something else, like proof of stake for example (I don't know what else makes ppc special other than maybe the coloured coins thing) - and you're right - heaven forbid it would be me doing it, because like i said multiple times, i've all but deleted my social media channels and have spent too much time online - but i do beleive engagement brings eyes on the project, who can then talk to whales. it's been my experience that the people with money aren't the ones digging at the tech - and yes, i know there's some nerds with money, but they are already here in crypto. as far as "discussing it in this chan" - i think that the chart looks sad and that it correlates to adoption and people wanting to be in the project
i can say i've seen that kind of defensive behavior before, and you can build the best product in the world, but if it's just 10 people talking to each other.. it ain't gonna do nuthin
i'm not looking to get rich, but it would be nice to see better support to know this is a good project. the tech doesn't mean anything if it doesn't get used
zip drives are a perfect example. way better than CDs, ahead of it's time, pretty cheap and would have gotten cheaper but what? the PC manufacturers shipped computers out with CDs, so people use CDs and nobody has a clue how to use a zip drive because there's 10 different kinds
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:18 PM
The 'channel' point was about your gambling idea. If you want to implement it, it's going to get buried here. Try posting it on the forum.
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:18 PM
yeah - great defensive posture about it though
i've seen this in other coins..
everyone's like: "the code! the code!"
yes, the code is important, i'm not disputing that
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 07:19 PM
The problem is the creation of relatively arbitrary standards of "effort". Thats going to be the core issue
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:19 PM
that's why i'm here in the first place, the code.
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:19 PM
You will see anyone get defensive about literally anything when you start attacking.
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:20 PM
whatever man, i started by saying ideas and like i also pointed out - everyone with PPC tags get defensive
so, you're welcome.
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:20 PM
We should be thanking you for saying 'be in the conversation more'?
Seriously?
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 07:21 PM
Its all good
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:21 PM
if you don't want adoption, just say so. if you think my ideas suck, then propose something else. if you think my ideas suck and you have nothing better to offer or don't think we need more eyes on the project, just say so
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 07:21 PM
Well, I don't think thats what anybody is saying
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:21 PM
w/e
i didn't come in here all negative..
i've shared alot of meme fun first 😐
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:21 PM
I propose we continue to participate with consistency the way we have been, stay the course
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:22 PM
and asked questions
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:22 PM
Lol, yah your memes, I'm sure they'll be missed
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:22 PM
lol, i'm not saying you'll miss them
again with the attitude though, looks good with the tag ✨
i was just saying i came in here with a positive attitude and shared some memes and asked questions. I gave some suggestions and people got defensive
if you're gonna get defensive, i'm gonna keep poking, because it tells me there's something you're insecure about
you can kindly ask me to leave if you'd like
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:24 PM
I wouldn't tell you where to spend your time, as much as you suggest the same for others.
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:24 PM
i'm not suggesting it FOR OTHERS
wtf is your problem?
why are you missing the point on purpose to take a swing at me?
like..
i started with saying there could be more adoption because the chart looks like shit
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:25 PM
That is a tautology
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:25 PM
"- heaven forbid it would be me doing it, because like i said multiple times, i've all but deleted my social media channels and have spent too much time online - but i do beleive engagement brings eyes on the project, who can then talk to whales. "
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:25 PM
you can fuckoff with your "suggesting it to others" - "you're welcome" is frigin sarcasm because you guys are just missing the point
so.
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:25 PM
SO your not going to do it?
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:25 PM
No, he wants others to do it
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:26 PM
would you really want me in there?
dude
why you being an ass?
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:26 PM
But hes not telling others how to spend their time
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:26 PM
No, he wants others to do it
no
no
no
like..
isn't the fuckin team open to suggestion? isn't there people who WANT to do this?
hu hu hu
look at that guy
he wants to make other people do it
fuck off
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:27 PM
Your suggestion is that we participate in conversations more
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:27 PM
I've got "Ideas" that I "could" do myself, I have a youtube channel its up to me,
I do plan to do it one day, start posting about peercoin and the history of it in the crypto space,
Paying someone else to do it is not really the same, I used to watch a few youtube channels when the crypto thing boomed like David Hay, he promoted some coins and they've gone completely downhill.
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:29 PM
Right, we cant pay others. We have to participate the best we can, try to build the community, and try to separate wheat from chaff.
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:29 PM
He doesnt post anymore, as was said you could pay a bloke like that to shill a coin but whats the point? Nobody is watching those channels anymore and wouldnt buy it(Peercoin) anyway
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:33 PM
In times of a bear market, its important to remember we are mostly volunteers, and that people that are chicken littling are accelerants. Consistency is key.
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:33 PM
I ultimately believe, If Peercoin is going to have any relevance in the future its going to be a grassroots movement, its a good sign the coin still being developed and we have a few guys behind the scene, its not super busy in the forums buts its going to take other people to help promote the coin,
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:33 PM
chicken littleing?
that better be in the UD
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:34 PM
Yeah Ive told all my friends about peercoin going way back and they didnt buy and good thing they didn't otherwise they'd want my blood loL!
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:34 PM
Every time someone believes the hype behind an apocalyptic theory that will end the world, and the hysteria that ensues. It is an old cumulative tale about a chicken (or a hare in an early version) who believes the world is coming to an end. The phrase "The sky is falling" ha...
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:34 PM
If peercoin goes back to $10,$20 in a bull market no doubt my friends will be interested LOL!
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:35 PM
i've said this a bunch of times, it's not about a frigin pump, just support on the books.
maybe the algo needs to be tweaked more toward stakers? I don't frigin know
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:35 PM
What are your comments on rfc11?
Maybe there is a better forum than the 'trading' channel to talk about how to drum up support?
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:36 PM
you start a convo, you go with it - sorry it's bothering you but i find it relevant
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:37 PM
Coming on the 'trading' channel with criticism of the team is textbook chicken littling
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:38 PM
See this is where peercoin can stay consistent, BTC has had contentious forks, Litecoin wants to implement a privacy feature, Peercoin has always been about a sustainable economic model with low inflation, low energy use coin, we dont want to go down the road of other coins and play popular politics, it would hurt us in the long run
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:38 PM
i didn't "come" to the channel with critisism, @Nagalim - quit strawmanning me
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:38 PM
Peercoin had a contenious fork, I think. I dunno if peercoinOG is actually a thing though
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:39 PM
i got on the offensive when the team got defensive
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:39 PM
Im not sure the POS needs tweaking, even despite how low the price is, as long as the hash rate is trending up the coin will do okay I believe,
Okay I didn't know that
about PeercoinOG
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:40 PM
i started with: there's no support on the books, we need to do something, here's my suggestions
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:40 PM
If you can convince others to buy peercoin, thats ultimately what its going to take, I buy and dont sell but one person is not enough and Im definitely no whale.
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:41 PM
You mentioned the 'coin team' being 'shy' and went off on a rant with no provocation from the team
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:41 PM
i also stated why i wasn't able to do it and how much time it would take for someone who knows something about the project
"shy"?
you sure?
i think you jumped in the middle to defend your teammates but didn't realise one of them instigated it
so, instead of addressing the point there's no support, you attack the person and build up straw men
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:43 PM
"it's like the "coin team" are shy of telling people about their coin because they don't want to be pumping it, but meanwhile, people who beleive in their project suffer some losses. what you need is more outreach and engagement - the interviews are great and you need to have them there for references - but someone who knows about the project (can explain ppc in and out, i'm looking at you, @captainbuckkets ) - need to get in on the social medias... and not just posting stuff in your own reddit / twitter / facebook ~ you need to find where the people are talking and get in on the conversation and be all smoking a tobacco pipe while dishing out facts"
this is basically without any comments from the team at that point
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:43 PM
arright then - just tell me you don't give a crap about social medias and move on
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 07:44 PM
just tell me the sky is falling and move on
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:44 PM
i'm not gonna scroll up to check... and it's not out of nowhere
lol, what the fuck is your problem?
you keep throwing attacks at people to defend yourself
i hear calling people racist works really good - maybe you should try it
that'll deligitimize them! * evil laughter *
you're hiding behind how terrible i am instead of addressing the problem, so.. yeah.. i don't know what to say anymore
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:47 PM
From what Im reading, your the one bringing hostility whilst everyone else is remaining civil, just my IMO!
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:48 PM
yes. cheers, mate
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:49 PM
I reckon youtube is a powerful platform and if you make good content its a winner.... SO like I said no promises but I plan to make some videos in the future, maybe a monthly thing
Even top coins are price immune at the moment, Look at XRP, its basically 2.5 year lows despite the army, the money, the real world adoption etc.
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:51 PM
people talk about xrp
i still wouldn't touch it
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:51 PM
Either would I lol!
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:52 PM
the fact that people are talking is good. doesn't matter if the coin sucks, it's like a social order book
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:52 PM
Thats in your face marketing and shilling though, and whats actually happening in the real world with corporations using the technology.
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:52 PM
and you get people saying: actually, xlm better coin if you like xrp
hire an army of people dissing PPC for all i care
i say that loosely, i don't want you guys to hire an army of shillers
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:54 PM
The problem as I see it, people entering crypto are basically lookin at the top 10 coins and inside the 100,
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:54 PM
but after this conversation, i don't feel like anyone "gets it" or is interested in getting it beyond attacking people who question it
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:57 PM
I think the best chance for Peercoin to remain a thing, keep the development going and one day it might be severly pumped and dumped, that would bring in new blood but also burn people, thats my honest opinion and I think Peercoin is an attractive target....
The marketing can only do so much,
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:57 PM
great. p&ds. who doesn'tlove those?
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 07:57 PM
All I said was the "marketing" is complicated because its expensive outside our budget
The problem is there are so many projects to compare us too, but their insides are rotten any abysmal. XLM couldnt even give away their currency for free
Yet its 20 top
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:59 PM
cuz they wanted stuff like kyc
don't shit on xlm... show me why ppc should be up there
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 07:59 PM
Nothing gets people interested in a coin like price action, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink,
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 07:59 PM
Im not
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 07:59 PM
i was just making an example with the xrp crowd because xlm is the open source version
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:00 PM
Lol open source
You cant even mine it
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:00 PM
you can run a node
dude - you can hate everything out there
you can't download a whole eth node
you can't be a bp in eos
you can't you can't
yet that shit is what the market is going for
you need a share of that market to survive
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:00 PM
Yeah, shits different five years into the space
Less shiny when you know how it works
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:00 PM
not a top 10 coin, but at least top 50
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:01 PM
Like I said
Its all pointless because there is no "standard"
Other than price goes up and CMC ratings
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:01 PM
WHen the price of a coin starts pumping its like someone watching the cool guys in a club racking up lines, you want that shit and you'll be pay an ever increasing price just to get a sniff of it.
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:01 PM
Dash literal scam
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:01 PM
i'd love to see some actual games with in-house crypto even if it's just account-based
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:02 PM
But top 25
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:02 PM
right - everything you hate is top 20
doge best coin
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:02 PM
lol
Put food in my mouth, not words
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:03 PM
!tip Buckkets 1000 doge
here you go, sugar plum
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:04 PM
mmm
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:04 PM
$2.30 that's a bag of kim chi and can of pepsi, yo
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:04 PM
More than I can afford right now, thanks
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:04 PM
doge best coin. just say it, man
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:04 PM
Im not sure what country you guys from, In Australia we have a thing called "Superannuation" I guess its like your American 401K, pretty sure you can buy crypto when you self manage might be another way to diversify your funds or have a little gamble with PPC,
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:05 PM
wat?
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:05 PM
Basically savings for your retirement
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:05 PM
wat?
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:05 PM
a chunk of your pay goes towards super/401
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:06 PM
very savings, such retirement
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:06 PM
Thats beautiful, you dont get rich buying PPC for $10 a coin
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:07 PM
that's not a retirement fund, that's an amusement park ride
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:07 PM
If you bought for $10 a coin
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:08 PM
hope you only have the money to invest at certain times or you got a trading bot or.. maybe you want to give all the grannies a bitmex account?
dude
there's nothing reliable about that
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:08 PM
Thats glass half empty, you can buy now for 16 cents, glass half full, depends which way you look at it......
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:08 PM
too risky
looks like a p&d
actually looks like it's gonna 📉 against the usd there
it's ded, pack it in
ride the p&d and get out before the dump
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:10 PM
Thats true for pretty much every coin,
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:11 PM
maybe a lock-in feature for staking?
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:11 PM
What does that mean>?
You loose access for X amount of time, to guarantee you wont sell?
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:12 PM
means the coins are time-locked for staking and you could see on the block explorer who's set their stake to unstake
not just the immature coins staking thing - but it could be a lock-in and you have to de-register on the chain to unlock them
"he's an ideas man" - fu (i say that amicably)
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:13 PM
Im struggling to understand the purpose of that
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:14 PM
longer-term staking - someone couldn't just dump without the block explorer showing a big stake unlocking
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:14 PM
is it different to locking and unlocking the wallet for minting? Or is it the same and just makes it public of who is staking?
You'll have to give me an example,
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:15 PM
with Loki, there's service nodes. someone registers it and the public key goes on the blockchain, so others can join in on the service node. any of the people who joined can initiate an unlock, but it take like 20 days before you can move the coins out - so the block explorer is showing: this service node is unstaking and there's this many nodes actively staking
so you know, if for example 100 nodes unstaked all at once, someone's gonna dump - but you get like 20 days to gather up support instead of just people dumping on the books
just a random idea... you'd think that with it being POS, you'd get alot more holders, but there doesn't seem to be much support(edited)
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:18 PM
Theirs pros and cons to that approach,
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:18 PM
No, all anybody does is hold
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:18 PM
so..
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:18 PM
When price goes up, they don't sell
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:18 PM
maybe change the asic part?
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
When price goes down, they don't sell, they just buy
Why change mining?
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
because where else is the sell pressure coming from?
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
...
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
...
😐
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
Thats is the fair distribution part of crypto
Thats why projects like XLM are failing
Because they tried to remove that part
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
Good point buckets,
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
Mining is the most fair way to distribute
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Nagalim 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
Forcing stake locking would decrease chain security by increasing the bar to be a minter
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:19 PM
Like Peerchemist said, Peercoin is the economic model everybody will be adopting and already have been
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:20 PM
PPC is very concentrated and only price pumps from here on is going to distribute coins as people sell out, unfortuntely theirs no way around that
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:21 PM
i'm convinced now, hallelujah, i've seen the peercoin!
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:21 PM
The idea could turn people off, we dont want to turn pump and dumpers away either.....
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:21 PM
Theres also an old whale that dumps
And has for the last year
Watched a few exit now
Good since new ones are coming/came
But none of that matters
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:22 PM
exactly 😐
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:22 PM
Ive been buying cheap coins, so effectively ive been buying from a whale.,
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:22 PM
Crypto is not about advertising
Its about price action
Its just wrapped up in fancy things like "privacy" and "payment" or whatever the buzzword is
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:23 PM
i dislike how you conflate advertising with engagement and adoption
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:23 PM
Crypto is ultimately a belief system and popularity contest
Adoption is really a joke,
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:24 PM
is it?
only if you think crypto is a joke
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:24 PM
I watch a guy called the modern investor, he talks about adoption of bitcoin for example then turns around and says "Its definately going to $100,000, me personally I dont plan to sell out until it hits a million dollars per bitcoin"
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:25 PM
They are one and the same
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:25 PM
SO hes not "adopting bitcoin", hes simply speculating
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:25 PM
hey, people can talk about adoption and still be overcome by greed
especially these days [tries not to get into politics]
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:25 PM
I believe most people just buy crypto to store until that can sell for fiat,
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:25 PM
politics zzz
yes
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:26 PM
adoption does eventually mean more people in there using it, so the price per unit is more scarce
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:26 PM
you could say more wallets is "adopting" but its not really IMO, it just means to me that more people are speculating
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:26 PM
i'd like to see games
actual games with in-house coins
even if it's a shitty game
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:26 PM
they arent buying bitcoin or crypto in general because they want to use it as a day transaction tool,
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:26 PM
you got your account, you can depo / withdraw
it is a transaction tool, i don't know if i'd call it an every day one though
personally, i don't think i'd want that
not unless you got certified bills that don't require people to be online - but that's 3rd party and not in the spirit of crypto, so why not just use silver offline and bitcoin online?
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:28 PM
Its not for day to day use, I dont think ive ever used any crypto in 6 years for the purpose of buying a good or service, its always been between an exchange and my wallet
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:28 PM
i've bought stuff
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:28 PM
and bank account
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:28 PM
@dirkmirk same
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:29 PM
i've paid some people to do some work for something online..
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:29 PM
Can't be deflationary and used for spending
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:29 PM
So for me peercoin doesnt really need a use case, its a backbone crypto like Bitcoin, no point trying to think of ideas to make people want to use it in their day to day business
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:29 PM
you use it to buy flationary?
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:30 PM
Bitcoin failed as a currency when the deflationary narrative was pushed
Which isn't even in the whitepaper except for one line
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:30 PM
Peercoin could sell itself on the idea of being a more sustainable version of bitcoin and thats pretty much it,
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:30 PM
Which is just talking about the distribution
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:30 PM
like i said, i've used bitcoin to buy stuff - but it's not like i buy bitcoin at 5k and then use it online for 5k/btc..
being able to spend it is key imo - but you got all these exchange bitpay type services now
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:31 PM
If you think X will be worth tomorrow, you will never spend X
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:31 PM
if i can't spent it and the only thing i can do is kyc into my bank account...
that's just stock markets
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:31 PM
So you have core maxxies telling you its going to $100,000,000 a BTC
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:31 PM
that's not true
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:31 PM
and telling you that you should buy coffee with it
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:31 PM
if i have 1 btc now and i think it's going to 200k next year
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:31 PM
Otherwise you are working negatively for yourself
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:32 PM
and i need to eat...
i'm gonna eat
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:32 PM
You say that
My networth is mostly PPC
and I would rather starve than sell
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:32 PM
i'll save as much as i can, maybe eat some kim chi instead of going to the restaurant because i have 10k in my pocket...
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:32 PM
I think the other nice feature about staking Peercoin, if you had 1,000 coins and made 10 coins a year later, you could still have 1,000 coins, if you have one whole bitcoin you dont really want to sell a fraction, you either want to keep the whole thing or sell the lot
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:32 PM
but imma look online and see where i can spend that fucker
we can talk about who's starving the most in private if you want
i'd invite you over for a beer and a fist fight, but there's a border in the way
we can film it and paste over doge vs ppc heads and make it go viral ✨
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:34 PM
Haha no need for fist fights, we all want the same thing
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:34 PM
c'mon
no, no.. just a drunken hillbilly fist fight
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:34 PM
Nah, going to make a big bowl for sleep for dinner :)
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:35 PM
Did anyone else have a go at coinegg? Looks the price is getting out of whack, I think you need a minimum of 100 coins to withdraw or something,
I suppose the KYC thing is a bit of turnooff lol
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:36 PM
they do surprise kyc
on withdraw
if you're up front about it, whatever - that's your deal
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:36 PM
Pretty sure im blocked from there like everywhere else :)
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:36 PM
Yeah, im no conspiracy theorist but am a bit wary of giving a chinese exchange my details lol!
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:36 PM
no shit
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:37 PM
DO they want like a passport and all that sort of shit>?
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:37 PM
idk..
any half decent exchanges on the horizon for ppc?
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:37 PM
It would be hard for a chinese person to get a hold of peercoin, unless they have a chinese version of bitterx?
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 08:44 PM
The Korean arm of Bittrex is UpBit
We are trying to get more exchanges. There should be an integration/listing this week but I just gotta talk to the guy tomorrow
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:47 PM
Their you go roadcrypto that should make you happy,l
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roadcrypto 01-Dec-19 08:47 PM
😐
when bucket stops putting all his money into ppc, i'll be happy
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dirkmirk 01-Dec-19 08:48 PM
Exchange listings is good, shame BTC-E went down the tubes along with cryptopia, getting delisted from Poloneix was a kick in the balls
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captainbuckkets 01-Dec-19 11:16 PM
My existence is PPC(edited)
Polo lost a lot of traders with the KYC and the slow moving nature
Then sold out to some chinese company and then...
Eventually things just smell too bad
Nyet Shitcoin
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HighLow 02-Dec-19 06:19 AM
oho... a lot of talking ... it is not just PPC that is doing wrong on market. the thing is that people are going for Ripple and other controlled assets. they don't understand crypto and what it's ment for. also they don't see it's potential. as for PPC...the coin is great...POW + POS. not even BTC can be better..but now with this Lightning fork and nodes...it might slow down the miners as difficulty increased and most all btc discovered. appart from that... PPC could be used and implenented in other projects as low fees and secure network with POS and POW working hand in hand. of course it doesn't have smartContracts like ETH ...but neither eth has POS...but they want to fork...but it doesn't have POW likr PPC. people don't understand crypto. don't focus on people...focus on what coin is and what markets can target like low fees and fast payments. you should put some test result like a benchmark of PPC to see how it handels. Also but not least...why PPC isn't on a great exchange like Kraken? or other exchane that has markets to usd and other fiat?how much does it cost to list it?
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Dec-19 06:22 AM
Peerchemist 200-500k(edited)
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HighLow 02-Dec-19 07:05 AM
that much... ok
but tell me... you are more informed than me... are this big exchanges listing coins based on technology or only who pays them the listing fees?(edited)
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necro 02-Dec-19 07:11 AM
both
and third - community voting
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Dec-19 07:13 AM
Peerchemist First is how much they make on trading fees, next is the listing fee itself
Peerchemist Community voting is basically listing fee with extra steps
Peerchemist you also pay for the priviledge to get into that voting pool
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Dec-19 11:35 AM
Buckkets They never ask about the tech for me. It’s usually just a request for X money and a listing promise
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Dec-19 12:35 PM
Peerchemist They don't even know about the tech lol
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captainbuckkets 02-Dec-19 12:45 PM
Of course
But muh binance
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Dec-19 02:03 PM
Highest upward change 📈 last 24 hours: Real transaction value by +1931.09%. Highest downward change 📉 last 24 hours: Coins minted by -52.73% more on https://t.co/ObB4Uye5Gb #peercoin #ppc #proofofstake
Robert Wow
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HighLow 02-Dec-19 04:27 PM
how does this goes
BIG things happening with #Zcash $ZEC 🔥 #Ethereum $ETH Hardfork: Dec. 4th (This will enable private atomic-swap transactions between #Zcash) 🔥 Blossom Network Upgrade: Dec. 11th (It improves user experience by reducing the confirmation times and improves scalability)
eth will enable private tranzactions by zec
also eth will switch to POS
but nothing is linking it to ppc...the first POS coin(edited)
how can they use ppc technology without ppc in the scheme...sunny king creating ppc first
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Dec-19 04:33 PM
Peerchemist It's not the same tech, ethereum style of pos works very different
Peerchemist It stems from NXT style of lottery based pos with extra contraptions
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HighLow 02-Dec-19 05:01 PM
and they copy paste code?
just like that?(edited)
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 02-Dec-19 05:02 PM
Peerchemist No, it's all brand new
Peerchemist New algo and new implementation
Peerchemist I'm just explaining the line of thinking, it can be traced back to what nxt did
Peerchemist Peercoin does PoS with utxos, that's how you can recognise where something comes from
Peerchemist If it's pos and has utxos, it's a peercoin clone
Peerchemist Otherwise, no
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peerchemist 03-Dec-19 08:07 AM
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dirkmirk 12-Dec-19 03:42 PM
Stop dumping coins ya bastards lol😂!
Where's the bottom? Could make a fortune 15 cents is already down their
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dirkmirk 12-Dec-19 04:31 PM
LOL you scamming cunt hahahaha, Fuck off outta here!
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captainbuckkets 12-Dec-19 05:14 PM
?
Didnt it get removed
Also something weird happened on HitBTC. I think BTC did something weird too last night
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Irritant 12-Dec-19 05:29 PM
i removed it
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captainbuckkets 12-Dec-19 05:47 PM
Nice
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HighLow 16-Dec-19 05:14 PM
btc down...and down we go
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necro 17-Dec-19 12:15 AM
4c
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Irritant 17-Dec-19 04:45 AM
peercoinhypers
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dirkmirk 17-Dec-19 05:38 AM
4c where
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Peercoin Telegram Relay BOT 17-Dec-19 05:48 AM
Cicada (in reply to @dirkmirk)
4c where
in his dream. in his vision
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dirkmirk 17-Dec-19 05:49 AM
Hahah yeah I was just playing along, XRP finally broke 20cents but they are still worth more than Peercoin, cant see that happening in the longer term theirs too many coins
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Irritant 17-Dec-19 11:49 AM
so when ppc goes up btc goes down
or just random
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Cybnate 17-Dec-19 03:57 PM
BTC nosediving again to $6,500. Will PPC still hold?
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Nagalim 17-Dec-19 04:53 PM
It's going up as BTC nosedives
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Irritant 17-Dec-19 05:15 PM
Rank 434 😎
Emercoin doin not bad also
Seems eth isnt going to get pos?
I heard
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Cybnate 17-Dec-19 06:18 PM
No POS, eth down 8.5% 😉
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dirkmirk 17-Dec-19 06:22 PM
Peercoin might be the near the bottom as it hasn't fallen in the last couple of days as the wider market falls,
In saying that Peercoin has suffered massive losses so mightve got ahead of itself
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Cybnate 17-Dec-19 06:27 PM
Peercoin leading the market perhaps?
🙂
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dirkmirk 17-Dec-19 06:40 PM
What happened to Ethereum?
I Don't follow the coin closely
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Cybnate 17-Dec-19 11:39 PM
Wrong forum perhaps, but it went from over $1,000 to just over $100 right now. It once threatened to surpass Bitcoin in marketcap.
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mperkins 17-Dec-19 11:57 PM
In fact ethereum eco system is much more advanced than Bitcoin so you know a BTC at that price doesn't mean much
In my opinion BTC values is only driven by its history of being the first and the one to democratize blockchain technology
Ethereum has smart contracts, dev environment even if if still not PoS
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captainbuckkets 18-Dec-19 12:06 AM
ETH was funded by scams that are largely dead that had too much money thrown at a market of people who had no idea what was happening
It did have a chance, but now the money bleeds
The icos die
They overextended which is sad
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HighLow 18-Dec-19 02:06 AM
teams lunched ico...gain eth...pump eth to 1k. the ico is not a common trend anymore.who knows when they'll try to raise eth price again. by the way...technology in a coin...doesn't reflect the price and not even the project defines it. it's all pump and dump
and I'll buy ppc with 1 btc and I'll double it...as orderbook is arranged right now
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NobFox 18-Dec-19 08:03 AM
They screwed up recently with the latest hard fork. They left the ice age code in, so they have to do another hard fork on the 1st Jan.
Nothing worse than looking stupid in front of the whole world to drop the price a few notches.
1/ You’ve heard that ETH went through a disruptive hard fork just over a week ago. This was a painful process that left broken contracts and nodes in its wake. The next hard fork? It’s in TWO WEEKS. Why? Because otherwise the Ethereum blockchain would slow to a crawl....
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captainbuckkets 22-Dec-19 12:53 PM
Lol
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Irritant 24-Dec-19 07:25 PM
peercoinhypers
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roadcrypto 28-Dec-19 06:01 PM
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captainbuckkets 28-Dec-19 06:23 PM
stable?
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roadcrypto 28-Dec-19 07:04 PM
looking at the profitability per day on bitinfochart...
this whole merge-mining thing is not 100% clear...
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captainbuckkets 28-Dec-19 07:16 PM
I never mined
Never understood the profitability
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Random_guy 28-Dec-19 08:10 PM
it's more 8-9 cts than 3
hmm actually it's 14 cents
Accurate Peercoin mining calculator trusted by millions of cryptocurrency miners. Updated in 2019, the newest version of the Peercoin profit calculator makes it simple and easy to quickly calculate mining profitability for your Peercoin mining hardware.
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roadcrypto 28-Dec-19 09:35 PM
right. bitinfochart would have a pretty generalized profitability calculator.. if it's too low though, i'm assuming miners can't dump much lower?
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Random_guy 28-Dec-19 09:36 PM
yep depending of their electricity price and installation cost
if it's not interesting they simply switch to an other
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roadcrypto 28-Dec-19 09:37 PM
i'm enjoying the ongoing conversation about hybrid PoS and the Peercoin university...
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Random_guy 28-Dec-19 09:38 PM
where is that conversation ? i have a bit of free time now(edited)
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roadcrypto 28-Dec-19 09:44 PM
um.. lemme find it
This is the article I've warned about that is sure to be upsetting. Hopefully it's apparent what is "in scope" for this piece and what's "out of scope". I'd like to propose we discuss only the ideas being proposed in good faith, and leave all else aside? https://t.co/J9m...
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i followed a few threads around too.. and the peercoin university on the website explains alot
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Random_guy 28-Dec-19 09:46 PM
thanks
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captainbuckkets 28-Dec-19 09:52 PM
I tried to read it and sent it to peer when it came out
It felt very uniformed
So bad that i stopped reading
Too much dPOS being takes about as POS
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roadcrypto 28-Dec-19 09:55 PM
🤔
this one?
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captainbuckkets 29-Dec-19 01:07 AM
Yeah
I’m pretty sure
I can try rereading now that things are calmer
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roadcrypto 30-Dec-19 03:17 PM
well?
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captainbuckkets 30-Dec-19 06:00 PM
They throw the word money around with little to no consistency and it makes it pointless to read(edited)
Let’s first consider the fact that staking is competitive in the same way as mining.
I understand he speaks of block competition, but its not the same since one relies on power scarcity and one relies on time
Its just so inapplicable I don't know what else to say for most of it
I just hate it all
The real issue is its based on ETH PoS theory which isn't even real
Because they haven't done it
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roadcrypto 30-Dec-19 06:03 PM
😐
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captainbuckkets 30-Dec-19 06:03 PM
What does this mean for PoW? From a narrow, economic point-of-view, there does seem to be advantages to PoS which I had not fully considered before, but I still believe that Proof-of-Work is the most robust way we have to secure a chain, and the soundest way to architect a cryptocurrency.
Wrong conclusion because he is illiterate
PoS is the best for security, PoW is the best for currency architecture
Literally non-debatable
But because the failure to understand PoS, he must conclude PoW is better
But like I said, its dPoS educated, not PoS
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