[ANN] beeeeer.org - PPS Primecoin pool! ------- DEAD

Marketplace Primecoin
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[quote=“Gilligan, post:1060, topic:342”][quote=“xolokram, post:1054, topic:342”]thanks for all the support, help & offers
btw. he’s still DDoSing everything that is related to beeeeer

  • xolokram[/quote]

https://www.staminus.net/

DDoS hosting. Worth a look.[/quote]

@gilligan
I suggest reading this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=30639.0 too. It’s important because it shows that a “stamina-like” solution is not enough to protect against all DDOS attacks. In fact, it’s possible for ‘legit’ pool clients to overload (and unintentionally DDOS) a pool, and it also seems easy enough to craft a malicious fake pool client that will get by the firewall rules, but overload the pool. It’s not a simple problem :(.

@xolokram
I hope you or your hosters got some detail about the type of DDOS being used?

ps I’m firmly 2nding all the support and kind words already offered :slight_smile: beeeeeeer

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[/quote]

@gilligan
I suggest reading this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=30639.0 too. It’s important because it shows that a “stamina-like” solution is not enough to protect against all DDOS attacks. In fact, it’s possible for ‘legit’ pool clients to overload (and unintentionally DDOS) a pool, and it also seems easy enough to craft a malicious fake pool client that will get by the firewall rules, but overload the pool. It’s not a simple problem :(.

@xolokram
I hope you or your hosters got some detail about the type of DDOS being used?

ps I’m firmly 2nding all the support and kind words already offered :slight_smile: beeeeeeer
[/quote]

I checked that out but I am not sure it applies to our situation. Prior to the botnet discovery going we had around 10,000 workers, since xolokram and fenix put an end to the botnets we were running about 7000 workers. This tells me that somewhere out there is 3000 zombie computers pointing directly at beeeeer.org or if you look at it differently we should have more capacity on the server now that the botnet is not able to mine at beeeeeer.org and consume our resources.

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I agree it may not be the case this time (hence my question for @xolo), but my point is this:

If you’re going to fight DDOS, one needs to consider all the atteck vectors, coz the ***holes will just move on to the next weakest spot. From that article this would be trivial for someone who’s already able to botnet miners.

ps I’m sure xolo and co are well across this already :slight_smile:

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first: i don’t think it’s ypool’s idea or intention to DDoS other pools, altough they’re clearly the winner of the situation currently.

The number of workers were fluctuating depending on the time of day. The DDoS that be^5r was suffering was caused by a botnet with roughly the size of connections the botnet guy was using to mine, thus it’s likely him causing all this.

i’m currently looking into possible options to solve this issue, but it’s hard to find a perfect (or at least good) solution. some suggestions would take alot of effort/coding/time and some will need alot of money.

@churchmouse:
i have some information, yes :slight_smile: that’s all i will tell here.

@dma88 & everybody else who’s still mining:
the service is currently suspended, you can close the miner!! either you choose a different pool (one of the many…) or you solomine.

@getblocktemplate:
i’ll look into the code the upcoming weekend, i’ll report back / commit some code.

  • kroxolam
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[quote=“xolokram, post:1064, topic:342”]@getblocktemplate:
i’ll look into the code the upcoming weekend, i’ll report back / commit some code.[/quote]

thanks for your effort, keep up the good work :slight_smile:

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[quote=“xolokram, post:1064, topic:342”]@getblocktemplate:
i’ll look into the code the upcoming weekend, i’ll report back / commit some code.

  • kroxolam[/quote]

This would be great. I am sure the community will donate towards this effort , let us know

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[quote=“xolokram, post:1064, topic:342”]first: i don’t think it’s ypool’s idea or intention to DDoS other pools, altough they’re clearly the winner of the situation currently.

The number of workers were fluctuating depending on the time of day. The DDoS that be^5r was suffering was caused by a botnet with roughly the size of connections the botnet guy was using to mine, thus it’s likely him causing all this.

i’m currently looking into possible options to solve this issue, but it’s hard to find a perfect (or at least good) solution. some suggestions would take alot of effort/coding/time and some will need alot of money.

@churchmouse:
i have some information, yes :slight_smile: that’s all i will tell here.

@dma88 & everybody else who’s still mining:
the service is currently suspended, you can close the miner!! either you choose a different pool (one of the many…) or you solomine.

@getblocktemplate:
i’ll look into the code the upcoming weekend, i’ll report back / commit some code.

  • kroxolam[/quote]

Heya xolo -

I realize it might come across odd that I just registered and am posting this offer, but am happy to provide evidence if you’d like me to prove my identity :slight_smile:

I work in the DDoS mitigation industry for what is arguably the leader in the mitigation market… I also love beeeeer and have been mining with you for quite some time. Given the two, I’d be more than happy to discuss things and lend my expertise to your situation and hopefully help to aide getting you sorted out. I’m confident we can get your problem resolved fairly quickly, either via direct actions by you on your server to tweak some kernel settings or other net stack related settings, or by me tapping my contacts at your upstream providers to get the attack traffic filtered out at their edge before hitting you.

Feel free to reply here or shoot me a PM with any questions, I’d be happy to respond and provide my details and hopefully get the ball rolling on fixing you up! :slight_smile:

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fyi: i got my old data back, so i should be able to restore all remaining sharelog entries and execute the payout for the cppsrb run (asap)

@bike_e_maker:
i’m happy for every useful information/hint/idea.you got PM.

  • xolokram
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[quote=“xolokram, post:1068, topic:342”]fyi: i got my old data back, so i should be able to restore all remaining sharelog entries and execute the payout for the cppsrb run (asap)

@bike_e_maker:
i’m happy for every useful information/hint/idea.you got PM.

  • xolokram[/quote]

This are good news.
I hope u will get useful help to bring back a pool…i dont like mining @ ypool…somehow i feel that my power there is not getting the right payment…

Sukk!

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[quote=“xolokram, post:1064, topic:342”]@getblocktemplate:
i’ll look into the code the upcoming weekend, i’ll report back / commit some code.[/quote] Beeeer for Xolo :slight_smile:

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[quote=“Grekk, post:1070, topic:342”][quote=“xolokram, post:1064, topic:342”]@getblocktemplate:
i’ll look into the code the upcoming weekend, i’ll report back / commit some code.[/quote] Beeeer for Xolo :)[/quote]

Dude, you missed an “e”…
If it’s for Xolo it must be beeeeer! :wink:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS2kKDdFGmM&feature=player_detailpage#t=354

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:frowning:

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Hi,

so here’s the preview of the payout for the remaining (now matured) primecoins before the big crash happened:

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(containing all users with more that 0.01 primecoins, payout is proportional depending on your remaining sharelog entries - payout will be executed asap (within the next hour done))

gbt: i’ve looked into the getblocktemplate code and it’s a little bit ugly. the pure getblocktemplate provided by primecoin[d] or [-qt] is not suitable for long mining runs. it is possible, but that would need some more coding on the miner side and the first idea i had would be quite inefficient. i’ll do it once the pool is running again. maybe donschoe can do the dirty work for me pleeeeaaaase , so i’m able to concentrate on the pool ?

pool: i’m currently re-writing some parts of the pool backend to distribute the workload on multiple machines (which is kinda nice, because it’ll allow some extra features (more information later)). and i’m testing some services/providers for servers/ddos-prevention etc.pp.

yes, i know, we’re all waiting for the re-launch…
for questions/instant news, come visit the irc channel.

  • xolokram

ps. did i miss something?

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Thanks for all your hard work xolokram! Looking forward to the re-launch.

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xolo, Thanks for the update. So the old shares left from the paid-too-much period are still unpaid, presumably won’t be until the pool runs again? I am just asking. Take your time. I am soloing and it probably will take another week before I get a block anyway.

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rde got a working getblock miner, running it for almost a week now against my wallet - the only “problem” is that it’s based on hp10 and rather slow compared to hp11 wallet mining or xolominer ;D

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@mhps:
no, i adjusted their value to fit in the remaining primecoins and paid every user proportional based on the remaining sharelog entries. the old shares are consired as paid now. the value was totally off (i’m sorry for this) and during the last days before the crash the most recent blocks were needed to pay the early shares. this basically just means, that the pool has to start from scratch on re-launch, this time with share values that are actually realistic.

@Sy:
what i meant by ‘ugly’ is the continuous polling of the primecoind rpc service for new work. it’s the only way, and it’s annoying. (rde is doing it too)

/EDIT:
I missed some primecoins on the last payout, because i only used the sharelog for the payout calculation, but most of the users had a pending payout from the previous payouts and the 3.01 payout barrier. Sorry i totally missed that. I guess I was too happy about restoring all the wallets & sharelog database (which is btw. >2 GByte (incl. sharehistory)). Anyway, i’ll fix that when i get home again, and i’ll pay for the transaction fee.

thanks to Soxi.

  • xolokram
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[quote=“xolokram, post:1078, topic:342”]@Sy:
what i meant by ‘ugly’ is the continuous polling of the primecoind rpc service for new work. it’s the only way, and it’s annoying. (rde is doing it too)[/quote]

Understood, shouldn’t be that bad if run in LAN though…right? :smiley:

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hi xolokram,
currently I lost the orientation a bit. I just recieved a small payout but my balance before the close
showed something close to 3 xpm. Is this the difference you are talking about in your last post you intend to payout also?
Don’t want to make a big wave for this dust but I would like to known the status to make right decisions for future participation.

Btw, 2 GB is nothing. You could run this better by a memory based db like redis. I guess you are using mysql currently, a single
instance can easily handle up to 0.5 TB before you will see any serious lagging, even under moderate load if configured correctly.

Last question, you said there was a botnet ddos attack, how could this affect your internal datastructure beside your reachability?