i sent an email to southX telling them what I think of sub-satoshi markets

whats a sub-satoshi market

exactly.

it's a new "feature"

It's great when you're buying the shittest of shitcoins like StrongHands.

It means you don't have to have a DOGE or LTC pair to buy stuff.

...meaning your exchange is for shitcoins and whales won't use it?

Just bought some more peercoin, we might be about to leave sub 20c prices AGAIN, maybe for the last time.....

i also just bought my first peercoins to the Moon!

i'm not a millionaire, but the marketcap is getting pretty small ~ only 5 million dollars.

Rockets down on US bases in Iraq, Bitcoin up 6% in last 24h. Coincidence? PPC still need to follow.....

I was told thats "allegedly"

Said unconfirmed reports on everything

DoD confirmed attack.(edited)

PPC following Bitcoin up. Nice.

you guys remember when bitcoin bust through 1200? yawn at china banning bitcoin and it going from 3k to 5k to 4k to 6k...

It means china is controlling bitcoin basically haha

you make me look when you do shit like that, @captainbuckkets

i was hoping that 2400 zone would hold so we'd go for another leg up...

market cap's pretty small - let's just buy it all up

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Bull market coming soon finally

Im less perma bear than ever

oh?

i'm thinking btc could still go to around 5500

mm maybe

kinda doubt it

its going to retrace a bit

we need to stay above moving averages before i'm bull again

i think it was the daily that looked like it was trying

What do you use if I may ask?

weekly we're still at resistance

MA type and length

just moving averages. don't ask me the number... but i can look

....binance charts

that is

but i'm just doing a quick look

you see the MA?

yeah I see it

I have similar ones on my weekly

they are there on all charts, i was getting to that

But lower timeframes go up and eventually the bigger ones will too

on the daily...

we're at that point we need to hold

we need to float a bit here around 8k, not go down at all

on the weekly though

my eyes bro

the other MA is acting as resistance

you need a tradingview account

do you have one

i have one

i'll change just for you

Porque no use

fuck

lmfao

DM me your TV name and Ill give you an indicator for free

i don't

dude

just hold on

Markets are frustrating when you have limited information because of the tools you have. Its all about providing the most context possible

i'm not a pro trader

It makes trading so much less stressful

No, but you don't have to be

that MA is gonna get test

tested

Yeah Id say end of Feb

Probably

it's still acting as resistance on the weekly

For real, I'm not shilling my own tools. I'm just giving you something if you want it

Automatic lookback so you dont have to even learn about cycle lengths

i don't like "tools"

i'm just gonna open this in paint

your choice

all good

so, the MAs crossed in mid october...now we're in resistance (i think till 5500)

Why the length on the blue one if I may ask?

why the lenght? i don't get it

Why did you choose the length that the blue one is(edited)

Instead of longer/shorter. Like what does it represent

you mean timeframes? i'm not a pro trader, dude... we're testing these lines

shorter time frame.

Length 200

we hit the resistance level, now we're testing it

Should fail for a while

Then go up

Looks healthyish

i don't frigin know. all i see is these MAs have been pretty solid resistance / support indicators

you can "turn them into" ichi clouds... it looks "better"

lemme see if i can find the indicator

frig it's messy without the right one

without the MAs...

that's starting to look bullish to me

i shoulda put the time frames there, but it's obviously since 2014..

@captainbuckkets

Guess it depends on how the cloud twists

I dont think it will be rapid, but atleast its no longer a death spiral

look at that volume too...

my friend kept telling me "the volume isn't there anymore" after the fall from 20k... it picked up quite a bit - more than when it was at 20k

Is that aggregate across the CMC exchanges

I'm not familiar with that setup

it is

there was a bit of a discrepancy somewhere because some mid-volume exchange had a pump

hmm

lots of that volume is fake

Hard to tell whats real

it's for alts..

not quite trading view, but i don't really use the tools anyway

i use TV to check silver, gold.. the spx and other random shiite

i used to look on bitfinex because that's where the volume was and i'd get shit for that too

"ew, bitfinex"

i'm just looking at the goramn chart and order book

Dow Jones around 29,000 as long markets are up Crypto has a strong chance to moon again, bored traders need something to play with,

@captainbuckkets see that moving average floating around 7950...

I'd "bet" on 8800

it'll probably wick up further, but it's going #notinvestmentadvice

well done sir

MAs have been pretty consistent this year. the RSI is a pretty good one that i used to overlook

the Ichimoku cloud just looks like an extension of the MAs, but what do I know

I use cryptowat.ch

Your pictures make me cringe a little

fine not much point sharing if all you guys are gonna do is bitch about the picture. I'm pointing out the MA, if you'd rather bitch about the picture than the price, have fun.

Shamil i am not good at reading the chart

The thing about technical analysis is that it really matters how you choose your indicators. With an arbitrary choice of moving average window, you can get almost any number. I would argue that we are on a downtrend since july and that a 8800 bitcoin price would indicate a breaking of the trend and likely result in further price action

yes, but i was talking about moving averages if you followed the convo

the MA's on the weekly, sure i could display it all nicer, but i'm pointing it out.

That's why I said moving averages are arbitrary, because you can choose any window you like.

this one is just to show it hit (or real close anyway)

i was talking about the weekly

You say 'weekly's, but how many weeks?

the MA lenghts?

Right

idk - it's the default ones

i think it's 20 and 50 or something like that

Right, its arbitrary

That's what I'm saying

well, the one i'm looking at that is one of the defaults

If you chose 25 and 75 you would get different numbers

has been pretty consistent this year

and that's the one i was pointing out

i'm not a pro trader, i said that

look at line

The 'default' depends on what platform you choose

i don't know what the fuck it's called

You are looking at some random line someone else picked for you and treating it like its gospel

not at all, comrade(edited)

you're missing the point

these are the indicators I have. i barely look at the shorter one, the 7

this is the one i have on tradingview-nottradingview

longer one says 9300ish, that tip looks kinda bullish, so that one could hit...

this one seems more likely because that last dump is usually the resistance point

with the tip looking bullish, 88 will hit.. call it sorcery if you want, but don't call it gospel

i'm not a pro trader, this isn't investment advice. i'm just saying it here before it does it

that would likely start a reversal

sorry it looks n00b. i'll stop posting those in here now

So there is clearly upper resistance, that's almost always the case in any given scenario, but here we are trying to identify a trend and give the resistance of that trend, i.e. the lines that signify where that trend will break if crossed.

MA is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy as it is simply an average of recent market activity. It is necessarily crossed on a reversal, but will by definition lag as an indicator

yes, it lags as an indicator

i posted the ichomoku and mentioned the RSI

This means that MA is a good way to analyze the past, but a terrible way to predict the future

what i'm seeing in the MA's this year is it's acting as resistance and support

I prefer simply drawing straight lines on a logarithmic chart to determine trend lines

it might wick a bit under, but generally, the line held if you extrapolated a bit

it does have a direction

MA will always do that though, that's the point, the way it is calculated makes it a point of resistance in the past, but gives no indication of the future.

Just drawing straight lines on a logarithmic chart is more valid because it indicates what traders are feeling

If it is going down, traders in general feel like it is going down and will respond that way

if this doesn't hold, i'd say it's going down..

You can do more advanced stuff like wedges and double tops and so on, but those are where you get into reading tea leaves

but that's just me extrapolating on an imaginary line

higher high

That's also a somewhat arbitrary extrapolation. That's why I like straight lines, the extrapolation is completely predictable

that's a pattern

I still think its is simply a logarithmic fall from the high in late june. This would put our current resistance around 8400 and will continue to fall with time until the trend breaks.

i just buy stuff when i need, i have a hard time trading to usd - but i'd pretty much bet on 88

gambling is bad

which is what leveraged trading is

i'm just seeing this as the most likely scenario right now. it can always go both ways

mark https://imgur.com/woaahJG

mark If you visit me, you can feed tame-wild emus. They come right into my garden. This is Felicity Emu. She luuuurvs figs

Buckkets i love it

Big garden

Isn't the Emus that the Australian lost 2 wars on them?

mark (in reply to hokman)

Well, we shot machine guns at them at one point. Didn't go well. They ran away. But I don't think they've caused us to lose wars

i saw 14% in $

nice

BSV to the moon ?

Felipe (in reply to hokman)

Someone is playing

yep, time to sell if you're a lucky owner of BSV and perhaps buy some PPC with the gains...(edited)

so... i see 8800 hit

next stop is 11k IF we're bullish edit: (ok, maybe 9900)(edited)

you guys wanna ride the spx till 20k?

Peerchemist 200k?

2000k?

free money for everyone! (some conditions apply. free movie is for institutional lending only and not for personal use)

the chart looks ridiculous and i think the fed's addicted to printing money. no way out but down, so why not just pump it while the general population still has no clue?

4500 looks pretty "easy" from here

Peerchemist My original guess from last summer is 3400

without trading tools, i'd say the fib can push it near 15k with some vertical action

i don't even own stocks, i just been looking since "not-QE" a few months back

8k maybe... idk, it just looks nuts

tell random-joe on the street: hey, did you know they are printing a massive amount of money these last few months and are giving it to banks so they can lend it to people to gamble with on the stock exchange? most of the time, the answer is: oh yeah, they always print money though

meanwhile, nobody can afford anything, doesn't matter if you make 20k or 200k a year (only people who are gambling on the markets)

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

@mark so... I hear you want to become a trader? (edited)

so many eyes glaze over when you start talking about the value of stuff compared to something else. even just showing the gold chart against different currencies, people go: so what?

I don't think i had watched that one, or at least not a bajillion times like some other 2

So we broke out of the downward channel

Hopefully itll bleed into the alt markets

No real logic to be used here, just good for the goose, good for the gander type thoughts

we are currently moving up to the top 300(edited)

PPC is following yay

price to btc hasn't moved though

yes but with the BTC going up, it's good to rise a bit in PPC/USD and not falling

idk, some alts are showing signs of life against btc

I sent an email to hotbit on Jan 3rd about their wallet being offline for withdraws. I sent them another email just now telling them to contact the peercoin team if they have any problems

what are they doing, staking?

I can reach out

thanks

did you have anything to do with that, @captainbuckkets ?

skem

18 minutes and still "verifying"

do they have added verification?

no

it just showed up

25 mins later

blockchain verifications my guy

who knows how they work

not blockchain verifications, service verification

before they even broadcast it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

so... how many PPC do i need to be in the kool kids club?

idk

enough dead whales I think you can make your own rules now

100 ppc is a good minting unit

Minting is the cool kids club

ded whales? who's coins are on the order book?

i got my largest stake yet a month or so ago. roughly 1.5 ppc

how do we get alive whales to hold is the question

well usually the pattern is buy when the market goes down or when there is liquidity and a big dump

since they buy blood

then they move it up and everybody buys their bags

so generally you have to spot their movement before things are big green

i've been taking bites for about half a year at the order book

i liked ppc when i learned about it a few years ago, i tried staking back then but yeah...

does bitcoin-air trade anywhere?

Peerchemist I think it was on the livecoin or something

Peerchemist But I think that thing died a while back

Man I forgot about that

Peerchemist https://github.com/bitcoinair

Brand Economy Exchange (forwarded by 贵 客)

good place for a PPC sticker

mark Whooo! I am puddling along on Altilly (which suits me). Trying to keep the buy-sell spread attractively tight. Perhaps a tiny bit more volume is happening.

$1 in 24 hours>?

Peerchemist I see that you are learning from some YouTube academics

Buckkets (in reply to @roadcrypto)

All those MAs tho

Literally all you need is one straight line connecting the tops of the peaks since this summer to see we broke out of the downward channel

You dont need 15 different MAs

My statement previously was that if we go above 8400 then we will break out of the bear trend

So when we broke 8400, we went up to 9000 and still climbing, so I'm vindicated

Daily's arright, @peerchemist he's more entertainment than anything

Danial OMG it's me, here I'd be...

mark (in reply to Danial)

\0/

mark 'Proof-of-work mining also runs in the background however and provides the network with continual distribution of new coins.' Okay, this is one thing that still has me puzzled: is this 'background mining' done with ASICs? That is, is it still fairly energy intensive?

Peerchemist Yes ASICS

mark (in reply to Peerchemist)

Thanks, P. Nice quick clear answer. How is you day?

Peerchemist Early

Peerchemist Anyway about being energy intensive, yeah somewhat. There is no other way to distribute the coins but via PoW though

I like listening to Alessio Rastani and the cryptocurrency news channel, for comedic relief the modern investor but I feel dirty giving that guy views towards his channel....

One metric Im going to compare is PPC vs XRP/USD....Its going to be fascinating how this one plays out, I dont think people really care how they make their money so will be interesting if PPC with its scarcity can overcome the XRP hype machine,

Interesting because the tokens are roughly similar in price but dramitcally different in terms of supply and coin creation/sell pressure.l

Peerchemist Only 10% or so xrp are in circulation afaik

I really dont understand the love for XRP, the diehard fans, its like they ignore the most basic fundamentals of what makes something valuable, compare to XRP to any other crypto and it has the worst numbers for scarcity, totally ignoring token price, e.g bitcoin is like 85% mined, LTC 80%(rough) and XRP has more than 55% minimum held by Ripple

Peerchemist Bagholding = diehard fans

Peerchemist Others shill to take money from newbies

I’ve met their fans in real life

Disturbing. They know nothing about what they hold thousands in

Or did hold thousands in lol

While im ranting, another thing I hate is the "performance" of bitcoin since inception or the last decade, the millions of percent it increased in value, is it fair to value 10,000 bitcoin to a pizza or two once upon a time? I only heard about bitcoin when it was $40 a coin

I think theirs a small amount of people trading bitcoin in the early days when it was between $1-$20 and crashed back to $2 or so,

IF it were possible for Bitcoin to be listed on the stock exchange it wasnt going to be valued at 10,000 Bitcoin for one pizza

Peerchemist Why not?

Peerchemist I mean does it have a fair value?

Peerchemist It's anywhere between 1 Satoshi for pizza to 100k btc for pizza

Peerchemist Depends on the speculation and how much people expect it to be worth

Why not?

I think, when it comes to price speculation, people bring up the increase of the past of bitcoin, I think its disingenuous

to bring up the value of the first transaction

I think to be fair, we have to look at proper exchanges, I dont know the ones that have wistood the test of time but we all know MTGOX has gone down the gurglar

Whats that famous Jackson Pollock that may or may not be genuine? bought for like $10 in a garage sale in the 90s, worth 10 or hundreds of millions? Is that a good example to promote the value of his paintings? of course not,

A) art tied heavily to money laundering. Maybe the primary market if not top 3

B) BTC has always needed a narrative and in between absolutely boring RFC discussions that were non controversial there is not much to fill the time

So of course pizza guy is a story because what else to talk about

I guess what im getting at, WHen was bitcoin first trading on exchanges that were accessible to Joe Public>?

Its nice knowing you could buy bitcoin with poor liquidity or no easy way to transact,.

People think (If only I bought 100,000 when it was $1 a coin), when the liquidity would amp the the price

We have high liquidity now maybe it was $100 a coin or $200

When it crashed in 2014/15

what does unit price have to do with each other if you're not comparing market cap?

Peerchemist market cap is a fictional number(edited)

Ultimately what Im getting at,.

How can you can buy and sell

Could you buy a sh!tload of BTC for $1?

2010 is calling

Obviously you could sell now for a very healthy profit

So PPC is kind of relvanet, I just bought a few hundred off bittex, if Bittrex is the only place to sell in a few years could I sell that $100 or so off PPC at 2020 prices without crashing the price?

Liquidtity is bloody important,

So as much as I like PPC the markets arent that liquid

So I buy other crypto as well,

Peerchemist (in reply to @dirkmirk)

@peerchemist you serious about mcap?

Peerchemist yes

this discussion might not be for me

where's my designated adult? @captainbuckkets

yo

i told you when i came back to make sure i stay quiet

y

because i'm a jerk

@NobFox can vouch for that

zzzz

Market cap is only fictional for coins that dont have a clear distribution method, like xrp

For bitcoin and Peercoin, marketcap is fairly real, though it is inflated by people that lose keys to coins

He's an absolute cunt.

mark (in reply to @dirkmirk)

Whooo! That tells me when you arrived on Planet Krypto. $40? Wow!

mark Maybe the funniest thing of all is that Bitcoin was an experiment in peer-to-peer micro-payments. It's like . . . your daughter builds in the garage on Sunday afternoon a rocket that can fly to the moon, and winds up with a whole bunch of adults yelling at her. Sheeesh

Laszlo buying a pizza with internet money was a POC and it worked. If anything it cemented the fact you can send virtual money to someone else with complete trust and added value to the currency.

Without use cases, it's just a concept.

A good friend of mine has been trading Palladium for the last year. Very much on top of it

i wanted to get some but didn't get a chance. it's not as available as silver and gold.. now it's just too late

mark Slowly getting a buy-floor on Altilly. Still tiny volume, but definitely growing.

mark Does anyone here trade on SouthXchange?

@roadcrypto It's not too late. It's certainly the most pushed metal for wedding rings where I live.

Peerchemist paladium?

@mark SouthX was down for a bit last night...

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

Morning, D.R. I wanna find out if they have verification. (And wow . . . counter-intuitive site design!! But they got volume, so I will stick my neck out.)

@mark they decided to roll out sub-satoshi trading recently and I let them know what I thought of that.. that it just makes their exchange childish and attractive to penny-traders - which might actually turn off real traders. they don't have verification check for basic withdrawing.

i've depo'ed and withdrawned there without problems. the ppc wallet was offline for a bit but it was resolved. maybe if you try to withdraw like 10 btc / day you might need verification

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

Dang, I trade on Vinex (another coin . . . ) and they got one less decimal point. So when I got to SouthX, I'm like . . . What?

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

I'm gonna try a Noo Model, road. Gonna assume an exchange is safe only for small sums, and just put a smidge of Bitcoin on; buy in on the bottom side; withdraw that PPC; rinse; repeat

that's what i do

i heard bittrex global lets you withdraw without id for "smaller sums"

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

I'm actually legit in this, DR. Me old guy. Got no passport. Australia got no 'National ID Card.' So I have gotten used to sneakin' around the little exchanges that don't make a fuss about ID. Livecoin has been a mainstay (and in all fairness of comment: for other cryptos as well as PPC)

i'm not a fan of sending my ID online. wanna ask me for ID irl? no problem.

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

mark The DEX phenomenon holds all the potential in the world, but it is gaining pace much slower than we all thought

dread10ck5 hello

dread10ck5 PPC will be a new ETH

Грибабас (in reply to dread10ck5)

Why ? What is your argumentation?

Peerchemist (in reply to dread10ck5)

Why so bad?

dread10ck5 PPC will better when ETH

dread10ck5 why ppc logo similar to bitfinex logo?

Peerchemist Why is bitfinex logo similar to peercoin logo?

dread10ck5 are SK and SN a one person?

Peerchemist No.

dread10ck5 thank you

he does click-baity titles on purpose. he's funny, ok!

Peerchemist Maybe it's time to ban this guy

Billionaire vote!

this guy?

dread10ck5 Hello. May I ask for your help?

dread10ck5 I have an old wallet.dat with few adresses for receiving coins. every adress has a label. previously they were in the receive section. but now this section is emty but i still can receive coins. how to make my request adresses visible again?

dread10ck5 requested payment's adresses I mean

with coin control

you can enable it in the options somewhere

or maybe you mean something else..

File > Receiving adresses

Perfect

dread10ck5 thnx

dread10ck5 ppc is a sleeping giant

Грибабас (in reply to dread10ck5)

What is your argumentation, sir?

while other coins are moving PPC is dull

mark Hi, guys. Some advice, please. I am practising with the console in my PPC QT. So:

mark A little help, please. I am practising with the console of my PPC QT. I want to 'dumpprivkey,' which I think I understand. But I must unlock my wallet first. This I understand in principle. But the instruction confuses me. I see:

mark walletpassphrase "passphrase" timeout mintonly

Peerchemist mintonly is boolean, ie true/false(edited)

Peerchemist you can just skip it

mark Hey, PC

mark But when I try to dumpprivkey, it tells me I gotta unlock the wallet first

Peerchemist yes, unlock it first

mark It is the unlocking that I don't understand

mark So if passphrase is 'abc123,' then:

Peerchemist 9999999

mark walletpassphrase "abc123" timeout mintonly

Peerchemist walletpassphrase "abc123" 9999999

mark walletpassphrase "abc123" 9999999

mark Wait.

mark with the inverted commas?

Peerchemist inverted commas?

mark " "

mark Nope. Doesn't work without the inverted commas

Peerchemist no need for quotes

mark deep breath This is what confuses me. Sometimes the quotes are needed.

mark walletpassphrase abc123 9999999

mark Doesn't seem to work

Shamil i've just tested and it works with "

mark (in reply to Shamil)

Thanks kindly, Shamil — I really wanna understand this stuff

Peerchemist I understand this can be confusing, next release will ask for user to provide password just after the wallet is started

mark (in reply to Peerchemist)

Well, helpfule community here, P., which I think is 99% of the solution. I have done such a sweep in another coin's QT, so I am not far from success

mark (in reply to Peerchemist)

Nice!!

mark walletpassphrase "abc123" 9999999 — nope. 'double quotes' and seven nines. One space between the chunks(edited)

mark Wait — good instructions in the 'University.' I think I got it.(edited)

how much peercoins do you receive per day from minting PPC

?

depends on how much you have

Shamil 1/356 of 1 percent

dread10ck5 7% of all ppc are on the wallet of alexey biluchenko, ex admin of btc-e exchange: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ppc/address.dws?PR5KAV1aTkHuscQ6FmdGEM7abGwfAAWwr5.htm

dread10ck5 7% of all ppc are on the wallet of alexey biluchenko, ex admin of btc-e exchange: PR5KAV1aTkHuscQ6FmdGEM7abGwfAAWwr5

mmhm

Most likely gone forever

Is Alexey also gone?

Peerchemist Where is he now?

"According to the latest news the "red admin" is not Alexey Belan, but Alexey Bilyuchenko (by the way indeed from his appearance very similar to Alexey Belan). According to further news and documents 100% shares of WEX as company and technical platform itself, including the future possible profit, were transferred from Dmitry Vasilyev to Dmitry Khavchenko, drawn up by the consulting company Enston Corporate Services Pte Ltd in Singapore"

"According to the latest BBC-article Bitcoins in the "FSB fund": how $ 450 million disappeared from Wex crypto exchange (Google-Translate) the Russian FSB shall be involved in the whole case. According to the article the FSB or corrupt members of the FSB shall have seized the cold wallets in form of hardly encrypted flash drives. Further Anton Nemkin, a previous FSB-agent, evidently wanted to use the WEX funds for a new crypto platform "Vladex". The WEX funds with a value of around 350 million USD had evidently been transferred by the red admin to the wallets of the FSB-agents or those, who pretended to be agents. Apart from this the article doesn't write about the current personal and legal situation of Alexey Bilyuchenko, only that he shall be protected as witness in the criminal proceedings (what also could mean a kind of protection in form of protective custody). Further no word about the remaining funds on the WEX wallets in the height of 107 million USD as calculated above, which would be enough to pay out most likely all members! So if they used the ~ 350 million USD for whatever and this was only the profit they made, there wouldn't be to complain about criminal activity."

anyone in here a trader?

Definitely not

I guess not

Speaking for myself

Whats the question?

Sure, whats the question?

im thinking about getting into it any suggestions other than dont

you can trade to dollars, usually with bitcoin. there's lots of volume, so indicators might "work" better than something volatile. you can do scalp trades on btc/altcoin pairs. this is something like 20% here and there on breakouts. there's more long term trading where you find gems and go for 2x, 5, 10x + it's all risky. different people prefer different trading styles.. i'd recommend keeping a large portion in btc and just use a small portion to trade.

It costs a lot to learn(edited)

Thats called your tutition

Generally the more you lose the better you will become

I have some google drives around but I think most normies books are worthless

mark (in reply to @Chuck112)

There is anti-social trading — pump-n-dump, etc — and there is the trading that makes a currency a currency. I'm an advocate of providing-a-buy-floor-for-our-beloved-PPC trading. One can trade with just fifty or a hundred bucks worth of coin.

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

\0/

dread10ck5 (in reply to dread10ck5)

russian FSB stole only btc, ltc and eth. ppc should still be under control of Alexey

Peerchemist how can we confirm that?

dread10ck5 (in reply to Peerchemist)

only time will tell

Peerchemist https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ppc/#!rich

Peerchemist top two wallets look ded for a while

Peerchemist more than a while

Turbo dead

One of the addresses related to the WEX one

not for me, but what are some of the "best" places to buy bitcoin in the US?

the parking lot

Coinbase I guess

five years of having me as a consistent customer

i'ss altsezin?

What would make it alt szn

gainzzzz

Peerchemist https://twitter.com/SatoshiFlipper/status/1224403146023297025

dread10ck5 Hello ppc team! make the gui client more powerfull. for exemple - when you open nxt client you can see the colossus. you understand that this is a wallet of a real criptoplatform. what do you see when open ppc wallet? .....just wallet

colossus?

Peerchemist Colossus ?(edited)

mark (in reply to Peerchemist)

I had a colossus once. But it fell down in an earthquake

mark (in reply to crypto nigga)

I had a colussus once. But it fell down in an earthquake

i think he meant shiny

all other coins are doubled PPC no

Shamil thank god

is this a blessing?

Since about December, eth went from $150 to $200. In that same time frame ppc went from $.15 to $.22

They are about the same return

Litecoin went $45 to $70, also about the same return

Peerchemist stupid peercoin team cant even pump their coin

Shamil still waiting on that rfc-pump

Peerchemist is your pump patch ready @randuev? can we get it into v0.8.5 today?

Bitcoin went $7.2k to $9.5k, which is lower return than most of the market

Of course, if you take into account how it performed on bear markets, bitcoin performed much better

This is because altcoin markets are all considered bitcoin derivatives

Shamil can't we just rebase from last bitcoin price

@Nagalim peercoin price increasing in dolars ($.15 to $.22)is due to BTC going UP. not that PPC did something.

The same is true for eth and ltc

Looks like doge as well. I could keep looking at each individual market, but I think you get the drift.

You stated 'all other coins', but Peercoin followed the same pattern as all these other coins.

Peerchemist always nagalim with facts and logic

I said that most of the coins are already doubled, on usd they are x4(edited)

Must just be a scam

So when you say 'most', you are not talking about ltc, eth, doge...

Anything with longer than 1 year of history?

If you look at coingecko, you can click All Time High and soooo many coins are still down 90%+ from all time highs, XRP is like -92% and Cardano -95%, not just peercoin performing badly dont forget that,

XRP? hahahah , xrp is fraud, you're not a real crypto lover if you buy xrp, cardano(ada), it is not even working and expecting hard forks and are trilions of ADA. Please just look at... LSK, XEM, ETC, ZEC and I can continue

So when you say 'most', you mean about half and that Peercoin is reasonably average.

peercoin si ... in a deep hole, sometimes I wonder if dev team will continue the maintenance (at least) not development of the coin

Yes since maintenance and development has stopped(edited)

Peerchemist Absolutely abandoned xD

Грибабас Well

Pretty binary

Either abandoned or not

mark (in reply to @dirkmirk)

mark (in reply to @dirkmirk) And if you check the Bitcoin dominance chart, you can see that the drama started in early April last year. (Energy-efficient cryptos! I am patiently accruing Peercoin)(edited)

Грибабас So peercoin almost dead? No future for ppc?

he said he is patiently accrying Peercoin

why would he if there is no future

Грибабас Hmm youre right

Грибабас I have long story, i got my ppc blocked on wex, then i recovered ppc from there and price dropped significantly, bought 5000 ppc when it cost 5 usd

yes price dropped a big deal

hang in there

damn i don't have to complain about buying 110PPC at 0.9€

ouch

Peerchemist That's not even bad, check how much ppc is on sale from 30 cents and above

yes it's time to buy actually

Peerchemist Speculator who does not realize that should stop trading

peercoin is for long term I like the fact that it didn't go below 0.4 cents in most of the time. If you bought higher then that's suck indeed ...

I've bought ppc at all sorts of prices

Day trading rarely succeeds on average compared to just buy a little every so often

Buy a reasonable bit every couple months, nothing that will break the bank, and you can time it by the week for a good chance

But the timing is a lot less important than just grabbing some every so often, and making sure you never exceed what you're ready to lose

the cross we are approaching is the local uptrend matching the medium term down trend. The top and bottom lines from way back are the channel that bitcoin has been in for most of its history.

10000$

mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNevlS-zlo These guys are so funky they could burst info flames(edited)

crypto nigga Hello. where can I find peercoin mixer?

southX has PPC and XMR

crypto nigga i am looking up for an anonimous peercoin mixer preferably in tor

i don't think there is one, but it's not something i ever went out looking for

Boo ppc 1000$

Грибабас (in reply to Boo)

?

1ppc=1btc whatever the $ cost is

Boo Good

Boo 0.0000001btc=1ppc

sure, want to trade?

Boo Can we go public with gate. io?

Boo gate.io

Boo This exchange

Peerchemist https://support.vcc.exchange/hc/en-us/articles/900000187326

Peercoin at 25 cents, positive after such a long bear market hopefully I wasnt the only accumulating for less than that.....

do you need to KYC on VCC?

seems like email will let you do 2 btc daily or 20 monthly

nice link

interface is pretty clean

Peerchemist Yes they are bittrex sideshow

Peerchemist Many of those globally, upbit from Korea is the most famous

Where's Necro? Miss his trolling lol!

Still never found out what coin he was into

Peerchemist Xrp

Really? It's a funny coin, might be some gains but feel Ripple need to sell everything and get it over with, thats alot of sell pressure

crypto nigga where i can download the peercoin book?

Shamil Amazon

crypto nigga wow it coasts 100 ppc

crypto nigga i will buy

crypto nigga PPC is a sleeping giant

crypto nigga make another book with that name 个

dafuq?

Line I drew last week as the short term trend was crossed for the briefest of moments. We'll see if the trend holds.

Peerchemist you like them lines

lines can be lovely

pro lineing like la linea

they said we would never see below 10K again(edited)

they!

twitter's crypto lords have been wrong again

No surprise

After two years they learned nothing

Hmm, it will either have to go towards $12,500 else miners won't make money or just slowly die. More likely the former happens imo given the investments. These days it is all manipulated by large traders/miners. Current dips are just to catch the inexperienced, that is all profit without having to do much.

Peerchemist Isn't cost to mine far bellow the spot price(edited)

Peerchemist But yes they will set the price where it suits them

all depends on electricity costs

venezuela could be cheapest

BTC it's already mined(edited)

lightning coming to save BTC

Peerchemist What's there to save? The marketcap?

Lightning only works if transaction fees at high rates can be kept low. Hard to tell if feasible on current BTC chain where transaction cost of main chain will likely increase while BTC halves further. That will come on top of maintaining Lightning channels which are not free either. I believe PoS networks have an advantage here as cost to maintain chain is lower.

Time will tell

Peerchemist Cue in Peercoin primer no. 4 video

ill add it as a command perhaps

crypto nigga Sunny King is black

where where

Sentinelrv Part 5 of the Peercoin Primer video series has now been released! This final episode covers Peercoin’s mission as a sustainable and trustless backbone cryptocurrency. Watch Part 5 now! https://youtu.be/HbnSlQbUf0U

Sentinelrv Retweet here... https://twitter.com/peercoinppc/status/1229406282081325057?s=21

Short-term up trend was well broken, now I'm looking to see what happens with the cross between the mid-term down trend and the long-term up trend

Peerchemist just dump it

into peercoin

Peerchemist Of course

peercoin, the cryptocurrency toilet

Id say crypto is a toilet but toilets get used

Peerchemist Public toilet

ppc is better than btc

tell that to other. they only want to buy what is expensive. for them if it is expensive ...must have value

they buy btc because is expensive

same with other coins

No, they buy BTC because it is "safe"

because it has the most media coverage

People don't care about expensive they care about the x performance of BTC to traditional markets

but BTC is the worst performing asset relative to every other coin in the space

wasnt btc too expensive?

Irrelevant point since day 1

Satoshis means you can measure BTC in any fraction

whole or fractions are irrelevant

yes ik

Its arbitrary

i heard chinese were buying alts because btc was too high

People try to sell you shitcoins by saying oh, people buy LTC because its cheap

thats all im saying

They buy it because it outperforms

they buy it to make pump

Nobody makes price move but the whales

crypto nigga Hello guys. Do you know how russians call peercoin? 'Pipka' (пипка). It is affectionate name of penis in russian )))

Peerchemist That's cute

do you know what a peercoin is called in french? un peercoin, la!

Ho PPC has been delisted from the staoexchange

do you mean 'satoexchange'? That exchange has <4BTC total volume across all pairs.

that is more than all of PPC's volume together

Ppc shows up on coinmarketcap at least

lol

crypto nigga peercoin is too slow. i sent few coins to Alice yesterday. it took an hour(edited)

Mmhm

tothamoon!

crypto nigga how many transactions per second does peercoin network support?

Peerchemist a bit more than bitcoin-core

crypto nigga Data from Blockchain shows that Bitcoin's transaction rate is currently at 3.8

Peerchemist sounds about right

that is not the maximum

Peerchemist https://docs.peercoin.net/#/comparison-with-other-blockchain-networks

crypto nigga thank you mister frog(edited)

Sentinelrv That is what the blockchain alone can support, but when combined with off-chain scaling it is a lot more. Check this video for more information... https://youtu.be/HbnSlQbUf0U

Peerchemist peercoin blockchain can support much more, it's quite trivial for us to increase the block size limit to 2MB or more.

Sentinelrv That’s true, so both off-chain and on-chain scaling are possible.

what about block time?

do we like slow for a certain reason?

Peerchemist slow is subjective

Peerchemist closer to 10 min allows a block to get properly distributed and prevents orphaning. We do 8.5 min on average.

Peerchemist maybe blockchain tech has been improved now enough to reduce it a bit, but do we have a clear reason to do so?

Only a perceived belief that x faster is x better

High frequency trading on the blockchain eehee

well, if you want to pay for something and you have to wait 10 minutes...

but i'm just wondering out loud because i know that faster block time = more confirmations for security

in the same time

in the end it is similar

just faster confirmations

so corona virus is now effecting bitcoin price huh

Peerchemist how?

everything is going down

stock exchanges in the red, also crypto

Peerchemist what is pumped, is dumped

Peerchemist nothing corona about it

Shamil damn right

the world economy is grinding to a halt

china is 16%

while sars it was 5%

Peerchemist economy = shit being shipped around, put to assembly lines and distributed to customers

Peerchemist as far as I can see, it works

Peerchemist wheels still spinning

i hear all those companies complaining about supply for parts , vive index out of stock etc, maybe they just excuses for other fuck ups

Peerchemist dont listen to doomsayers

Peerchemist or even worse, bitcoiners

Peerchemist yes some supply chain distruptions due to china factories closed down or maybe working understaffed

Peerchemist I guess this is when we learn how much china actually means out there

maybe some bitcoin mines will be shut down

you guys should buy some XRP, it's super cheap, only 22 cents for a whole coin! ✨

The question was about how much china means to Bitcoin's mining industry right?

Google says 71%

yep if they closed during the disease, the other miner can get a bit more or a lot more if they have to close because of less staff or power plant closed for different reason

crypto nigga PPC will be in TOP 10 again

New listing

crypto nigga what about bitfinex?

crypto nigga the leaf goes on the leaf))

ppc only going for bottom 10

He's back!

is this financial advice

No, he meant the bottom 10 of the top 5000 worst cryptocurrencies

Cyber1000000 Any chances for PPC?

Cyber1000000 Do you suggest any good coins for holding, guys?

Doge

@Peercoin Telegram Relay still works

mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI

crypto nigga (in reply to @dirkmirk)

crypto nigga (in reply to @dirkmirk) we are all chatting on the freenode irc channel #deleted-channel. welcome(edited)

crypto nigga chatting

crypto nigga the bottom was 2019-12-12 at 0.0000195 on the bittrex(edited)

crypto nigga i don trust that guys who use macd, rsi, elliot waves theory and other grandfather indicators on crypto

show us how it's done, zoomer

crypto nigga I am not zoomer but early ppc adept who started trading on btc-e

wen mewn

Testing lower support on long term trend

crypto nigga (in reply to @Nagalim)

crypto nigga (in reply to @Nagalim) this is not a bitcoin chat(edited)

xD

Should go back up now any second

you're my little zoomer now.

Ok

bearmarket?

mark (in reply to @NPC)

\0/

Who is talking to the Russians and Arabs they now need a PetroPPC system?

lol

crypto nigga when?

crypto nigga when will ppc great again?

it is great now, son.

found the oracle of Delphi

2 months to go

GaIt (in reply to @Irritant)

Hehehe

fuck you btc

Peerchemist But it's the safe haven asset

Peerchemist It will protect us against economic hardship

mark (in reply to Peerchemist)

' . . . everything is for sale right now. One giant margin call where even the safe-havens aren't safe anymore. Except for cash." ' https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-massive-quarantative-easing-fails-stocks-bonds-gold-liquidity-all-crushed

it already halved

crypto nigga all big money people moove his funds to swiss frank

mark Got a shout-out for Altilly. Had to ask their Support about an issue. Got a clear and prompt reply. Very satisfying.

thats great :)

crypto nigga who will go to top-10 faster ppc or nxt? i bought both

Peerchemist nxt xD

crypto nigga The day when ppc price will jump x50 is near. all undervalued coins went through it. such as xrp eth

who's pumping peercoin

bittrex's new interface is pretty cool. when you put in a buy or sell price in the input boxes, it shows a line on the chart

crypto nigga (in reply to @roadcrypto)

folks

folks like you?

crypto nigga like me and like you

crypto nigga ppc is a sleeping giant. now is time to wake up

i almost panic sold some for corona preps but i moved them back

crypto nigga wise choose

i kinda bought too much on the bottom though

when i check the value at current prices, i'm like: holy crap, why do i have so many peercoin?

because moar steaks, that's why!

crypto nigga 'too much' it is not about ppc

crypto nigga roadcrypto is your ppc wallet in top-100?(edited)

i'm trying! but no

richlist goes with rich bitch

i don't have my coins in 1 address, so i wouldn't even be in there

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

Really like this

mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616-QGQyx-I

@mark are YOU on the richlist?

this is terrible

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

I wish! But I am committed to low-energy cryptos, and am quietly buying PPC from SouthX and Altilly

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

Sorry to hear that. Do you like the blues?

not particularly. more into the old western on that spectrum

I had a long talk with @peerchemist about exchanges.. I've been using SouthX and it seems legit enough for a small time exchange

i just took some small (+/- 0.01 btc) bites here and there. southX needed a little support and i check what the bittrex books look like. if it's "uncertain", i'd check the other exchanges, but there's alot of bot-action

i just bought up what looked like the bottom, i'm hoping it won't drop 50% in price against BTC from here, but if it does, i'll either have to buy more or cry

i have a few target prices where i'm gonna be selling some, but i'm not gonna just dump because i'd like to see it sustain certain levels (and keep* a bunch, i just have too much )(edited)

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

'Buy and bolt'

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto) De gustibus non est disputandum(edited)

@roadcrypto thanks for the chart, it's very intereting for this period

i knew de gustibus had to do with tasting, but i don't speak latin. "There is no disputing about tastes"

looks like last chance to get cheap peercoin (against btc, i dont check fiat)

not investment or trading advice

Straight to the moon from here?

slow and steady would be better

gap to $100k PPC yes seems realistic

yes but on Zimbabwe dollar, no ?

100k marketcap.

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

\0/

Support Peercoin here also if volume incease here they will add to other pairs also https://fiberchange.com/market/FBC-PPC

@didarmetu your exchange?

nm.. "they will add"

kina hard to trade to some unknown pair

@ mark & @ crypto nigga that 2500 sat range looks pretty good for support.(edited)

it looks pretty bullish from here, i don't think it'll go that low, that's why i'm saying it's looking like good support

Yes its his exchange

kyc required to withdraw?

books are getting thin on SouthX

154 PPC moves it above 4k sats

the other "shitcoin" I was "speculating" on at TradeOgre, @peerchemist is Havven protocol. both are code-forks of Loki as opposed to coin forks. (is there a proper terminology for that?) it's nice they have the "usual suspects" there as well: doge, xmr, eth.. ltc (yes, ltc, for the exchanges without doge when btc is busy)

Peerchemist proper terminology for that is "fork"

but there's two different kinds

one takes the code and builds on it, the other distributes coin like it was a split

Peerchemist code fork / blockchain fork

Peerchemist but fork, in general

Peerchemist peercoin is a fork of bitcoin

so, saying "code fork" isn't wrong?

right

but you're a code fork, not a coin fork

Peerchemist correct

people who had btc couldn't claim them on the ppc chain

Peerchemist of course not

right

so there's coin forks of monero

which is just ...

not-strait

Peerchemist blockchain forks

right.

Loki and Havven do have some cool aspects

so, sure, i'm kinda speculating on if either of those are gonna see adoption..

as with peercoin

Peerchemist dont drag me into it

into what?

into what dude?

Peerchemist just a phrase

i'll show you some drag!

Peerchemist my religion forbids me from learning about ICOs

I'm not sure I would call those forks at all. You're talking about taking a snapshot of the distribution and using it to airdrop a new coin. A coin that airdropped its distribution onto a snapshot of monero could be 'monero airdrops' or something like that.

Calling it a 'fork' implies it contains a common Merkel root at some point in time.

Peerchemist But it often does contain a common block sometime in the past of the chain

Peerchemist It's hard to call it airdrop, it is often just group of nodes choosing to follow new set of rules and ideas

Peerchemist It's democratic right

they call it a split

I thought what road was talking about was when you snapshot and airdrop, like what bitcoin air did

if you have the same blocks in the past, then you have to include the same validation code, so that is a code fork

I guess you could recreate the validation procedure using fresh code

mark (in reply to @roadcrypto)

I've just learned that S-X doesn't intend to KYC. So I will be putting a bit of PPC volume there.

i found a few sats there. i put up support

that one at 2740 is mine. feel free to dump into it

crypto nigga https://www.tradingview.com/chart/NXTBTC/dBmo9JZz-NXT-Super-Profit-or-Death/

be nice if we could bump to 30k sats and hold at 15k.

do you kids not want these cheap coins or do i have to keep buying them up?

nice. more support added on southX. this person probably has more ppc than me, buying a few K at a time

crypto nigga #deleted-channel channel on freenode is totally dead( go to chat there!

irc?

crypto nigga yes

didnt irc die?

crypto nigga some crypto developers chat on his irc channels

his?

crypto nigga their

when altseason

irc bad in this climate. t'was cool back in the day

IRC isn’t accessible to new people

it broadcast your ip publically and asking n00bs to use a vpn is kinda sketchy

even with a cloak i hear

there's some pretty cool open source ones like Riot

Peerchemist Yes, riot.im

I bought some PPC yesterday

+3 cent is like almost +17%

mewn bitches

Should be a top 100 coin

Peerchemist it is top 100 coin

crypto nigga top 10

crypto nigga make ppc great again

looking good against btc..

Good news again @everyone Fibercoin Exchange added New808coin(N808) as base market. As we promised, N808-PPC pair added. Support your coin. https://fiberchange.com/market/N808-PPC

:)

um

@didarmetu no offense to these pairs... but what's the incentive for someone like me? even doge / ppc doesn't have enough volume to trade

crypto nigga i trade on NXT/PPC pair. it is very interesting moment to buy some NXT right now(edited)

buy ppc

mark (in reply to crypto nigga)

Yep. If the 'other coin' is even a fair one, it can be well worthwhile to 'milk' the secondary pairs on an exchange.

@roadcrypto so lets supprt

what are we doing?

crypto nigga what?

what?

Hes just asking for volume

WHAT?

its too dark speak up

WHAT?

scooped up more ppc yesterday

F##K YEAH SO DID I!

Maybe this Coronavirus thing will turn out to be a good thing for bitcoin? Perhaps by the end of the year the world is more or less back to normal but we have the legacy of all the extra stimulus/money printing in the system, hard to say to say as always but I bought another $1,000 last night on the feeling that sentiment is changing, Dow up big overnight the rba could throw a spanner and cut rates again another little uptick in value of crypto in AUD. And the block halving is only 36 days away, to me it feels like its irrational that stock markets want to boom again but the reality is life will return to normal, if the world had to print a bunch of money to keep things going so be it, we'll deal with that later:lol:.

$1,000 on crypto that is,

yeah i had buy 1000$ of crypto yesterday and almost 10% more value now so i have sell a part today 'cause i think it's just a dead bounce and it will go down more before the return to normal

Never know, I never sell for the past 3 years.....

Turned out to be wrong LOL!

No way in hell I would even think about selling now, we're getting close to the halving and closer to another bullrun,

Im only going to sell when we're at all time highs and in a bubble.

yes that's the better option for you

Last time I sold in 2017, when peercoin hit $1.20 after the 2015 lows of around 10-15 cents, a day later it was $2 and guess what? I bought back in LOL and sold at $2.70 not long after

but the thing is to be sure when we are in the bubble to sell and not wait until the next bearmarket

still ended up with less coins when I bought back below $2, eventually going to $10 a coin

Trading is not for me

yeah me too, but i learn this way and follow the financial news to see what going on(edited)

mark https://imgur.com/S6gUTQF

Vitaliy 隐蔽

Vitaliy she

Vitaliy she

crypto nigga my guys! pos is gaining popularity. that time when our super coin will back to the top is coming!

crypto nigga exchanges will run staking services to stake ppc

GaIt (in reply to crypto nigga)

❤️

Peerchemist are we sure we want that?

crypto nigga why not. it's cool. isn't?

Peerchemist no it's not

Peerchemist it gives the keys to the network to exchange(s)

crypto nigga but vsystem pool has alredy running on finex. and sunny says nothing bad about it

They profit off your money

Peerchemist it's not about money, it's about control

Peerchemist minting is keys of the network

Peerchemist if you give the control of the network to a 3rd party, they hold the keys to the network

Not your keys, not your coins, I don't think we can trust exchanges like that

Vsys has already taken the pill of giving network security to a few central actors. Peercoin has not gone down that path, and is based off a philosophy of decentralization.

They are different approaches, and to compare them without context doesnt do either side any favors

you could do a dex, but there'd be no volume

have a fullchain ppc wallet with integrated btc electrum or some some