PPC balance incorrect

Can anyone please explain me how 3,500 PPC have just vanished from this address?

The correct balance should be 295,000 ppc but i see 291,473 ppc only.
This is not the first time it happens to me.
I haven’t been minting in the last month so there shouldn’t be coins locked somewhere in this universe or the other one or who knows where, and all my balance should be available for spending correct?

Wow, my measly 20,000 pales in comparison to this. I was going to say that maybe you minted a block. If that happens some of your coins get locked away and returned to your balance after 3 days, but you say you’re not minting.

Are your coins only in cold storage?

No they are not in cold storage, i just generated that address with the official peercoin wallet months ago and then used it many many times.
I was used to mint in the past but now i have not unlocked my wallet for weeks.
it’s also weird to see in my wallet 30,350 coins near the stake field, my last incoming transaction (30,000 ppc) has more then 70 conf. and what about the other 350 ???

There is nothing magical, everything is here: https://coinplorer.com/PPC/Addresses/PCNc1nPveSv2q2sJ27jvdxSZcSVbxfxEHE

May be you have added a second address to your Peercoin wallet?

No i have not added a second address i’ve always used the same address and i’m sure i should have 295k ppc since i only move coins in multiple of 5k.
As i said the same thing happened to me 5 months ago but i thought it was me that somehow screwed up the count.
Now i’m sure it’s not me i was used to have 400k then i withdrew 80k and 50k and 20k ppc and i remember the balance was correct at 250k, then i deposited 10k,5k and 30k today.
All transactions are there in the blockchain but i can’t understand why my balance is now 291,5k.

Blockchain doesn’t lie, try to sum up all the ins and outs and compare the results to be sure.

If blockchain doesn’t lie then i’m sure the wallet has some serious issue and sometimes it doesn’t correctly display the balance.
Might be i had not 400k ppc but 396,5k so why was the wallet showing 400k ppc moths ago?
And also why is my wallet displying 30,350 ppc on stake since i’ve not unlocked it for minting since weeks?

I don’t know if Peercoin has -reindex -rescan command line options. It could be of some help.

I see this two strings in the wallet history

7/15/2015 2:04:17 AM (UTC) Generated coins from block 230d001c9a71ba0d53a9dc607a4e3110b42eeaffbaa48863e2efd2d209dcf566 see tx + 0.63 PPC
7/14/2015 8:29:08 PM (UTC) Generated coins from block 6b41cc91f3b8cec769428323ceed557b784838f973663826b1420925ef14954e see tx + 43.87 PPC

Looks like i generated 2 blocks recently, how do i know the amount of stake that is locked because of that?
Maybe the 3500 ppc that minted those blocks are now locked?

You can see the related coinstake transactions there:

http://bkchain.org/ppc/block/230d001c9a71ba0d53a9dc607a4e3110b42eeaffbaa48863e2efd2d209dcf566
http://bkchain.org/ppc/block/6b41cc91f3b8cec769428323ceed557b784838f973663826b1420925ef14954e

[quote=“mably, post:10, topic:3579”]You can see the related coinstake transactions there:

http://bkchain.org/ppc/block/230d001c9a71ba0d53a9dc607a4e3110b42eeaffbaa48863e2efd2d209dcf566
http://bkchain.org/ppc/block/6b41cc91f3b8cec769428323ceed557b784838f973663826b1420925ef14954e[/quote]

Can you determine how many ppc i have locked and hidden from my balance?

[quote=“LeChatNoir, post:11, topic:3579”][quote=“mably, post:10, topic:3579”]You can see the related coinstake transactions there:

http://bkchain.org/ppc/block/230d001c9a71ba0d53a9dc607a4e3110b42eeaffbaa48863e2efd2d209dcf566
http://bkchain.org/ppc/block/6b41cc91f3b8cec769428323ceed557b784838f973663826b1420925ef14954e[/quote]

Can you determine how many ppc i have locked and hidden from my balance?[/quote]

I think that Coinbase maturity is of 500 blocks for Peercoin.

First coinstake tx is probably still locked for about 30 blocks, second one has already more than 508 confirmations so should be unlocked.

But that’s only 314.64 PPC locked, not 3500.

[quote=“mably, post:12, topic:3579”]I think that Coinbase maturity is of 500 blocks for Peercoin.

First coinstake tx is probably still locked for about 30 blocks, second one has already more than 508 confirmations so should be unlocked.

But that’s only 314.64 PPC locked, not 3500.[/quote]

Then i’ll wait a few more days to see if the balance gets back to 295k ppc, if not i will seriously consider divestment from this coin.

I love the philosophy behind ppc but this coin has no active development, no marketing, we are still running on centralized checkpoints, cold minting was never delivered and now this crazy balance issue.

After 3 years looks like the main wallet can’t even display the balance correctly are we serious?

Thanks but no thanks.

[quote=“LeChatNoir, post:13, topic:3579”][quote=“mably, post:12, topic:3579”]I think that Coinbase maturity is of 500 blocks for Peercoin.

First coinstake tx is probably still locked for about 30 blocks, second one has already more than 508 confirmations so should be unlocked.

But that’s only 314.64 PPC locked, not 3500.[/quote]

Then i’ll wait a few more days to see if the balance gets back to 295k ppc, if not i will seriously consider divestment from this coin.

I love the philosophy behind ppc but this coin has no active development, no marketing, we are still running on centralized checkpoints, cold minting was never delivered and now this crazy balance issue.

After 3 years looks like the main wallet can’t even display the balance correctly are we serious?

Thanks but no thanks.[/quote]

291,473 PPC is the real balance of your address and is confirmed on all the major block explorers around, so no pb with that.

But you are probably right on the other points :wink:

Just ran the calculation with my tool:

s_addressString: PCNc1nPveSv2q2sJ27jvdxSZcSVbxfxEHE
n_addressBalance: 291473.147316

Edit: Just found your “lost” coins, I sent you a PM :wink:

I think you should record everything in a word file:

[ul][li]how much rewards from minting with which ppc address[/li]
[li]how much you spent; [/li]
[li]how much you receive; [/li]
[li]how much you donate; [/li]
[li]etc.[/li][/ul]

[quote=“LeChatNoir”]There is some problem with the wallet, because i’m damn sure at some point it was displaying 400k ppc, after that i withdrew 150k ppc and the balance was correctly showing 250k, but now that i redeposited 45k ppc my total balance is 291,5k only :-/ :frowning:

This is not the first time i experience this issue, i always tend to leave round numbers on my wallet, maybe under certain conditions the wallet can’t sum up correctly or the blockchain becomes corrupted and that led me to believe at some point i had more coins then i really had, i don’t know i’m not an expert.[/quote]

You probably got mixed up by coinbase maturity that locks funds after minting for about 3 days and a half.

[quote=“mably, post:17, topic:3579”][quote=“LeChatNoir”]There is some problem with the wallet, because i’m damn sure at some point it was displaying 400k ppc, after that i withdrew 150k ppc and the balance was correctly showing 250k, but now that i redeposited 45k ppc my total balance is 291,5k only :-/ :frowning:

This is not the first time i experience this issue, i always tend to leave round numbers on my wallet, maybe under certain conditions the wallet can’t sum up correctly or the blockchain becomes corrupted and that led me to believe at some point i had more coins then i really had, i don’t know i’m not an expert.[/quote]

You probably got mixed up by coinbase maturity that locks funds after minting for about 3 days and a half.[/quote]

And that means that i will see 3,500 ppc reappear in my account in the next days?

Ok, suspense is over. The coins are here: PGLcwUa4dT9aaW9UPTTF3SSNFNDSyGUvrx

Proof is that you sent a bulk transaction out with your main address (check the input list):

https://bkchain.org/ppc/tx/eb69f132d9ac6bf8d9a645fa1d3573ea435504e20178968ab16825db8b34d00e

Now the deal for you will be to find your private key. Good luck! :slight_smile:

[quote=“Thireus, post:19, topic:3579”]Ok, suspense is over. The coins are here: PGLcwUa4dT9aaW9UPTTF3SSNFNDSyGUvrx

Proof is that you sent a bulk transaction out with your main address (check the input list):

https://bkchain.org/ppc/tx/eb69f132d9ac6bf8d9a645fa1d3573ea435504e20178968ab16825db8b34d00e

Now the deal for you will be to find your private key. Good luck! :)[/quote]

Are you kidding me?
I’ve never sent coins to that address and i don’t have the private key of that one.
First transaction to that address is 2014-09-22 18:58:33, my issue is more recent, i started to have my balance fucked up just few days ago.