Old Topic review:Do you think Sunny King is the same person- Satoshi Nakamoto

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Do you think Sunny King is the same person - Satoshi Nakamoto?
Satoshi’s last words stated he would be moving on to more “complex ideas” Do you think those ideas where Primecoin and Peercoin? It seems to me if you have a mind which can creatively invent the Proof of Work concept, why can’t you have the mental capacity to invent Proof of Stake? If Satoshi invented Bitcoin, i don’t think he would have stopped there. I think we would have kept going. This person may be a group of people as well.

[–]Gohoyo 16
To put it simply: No.

[–]Sentinelrv 4
Has anyone tried comparing their writing styles for similarities?

[–]Mtinie 3
I’m partial to the idea that they are different people; believing that we have more Satoshis and Sunny Kings in the World is a nice thought.

[–]Sentinelrv 3
Let’s just assume for a second that they are the same person. Satoshi most likely would have changed his identity to prevent people from thinking he was abandoning Bitcoin for another concept. It would also have allowed him to develop the new coin in a more low key environment, without everyone immediately flocking to it upon release. That way he’d have more time to develop Peercoin before it got popular. That couldn’t happen if he released it as Satoshi.

[–]JonnyLatte 4
Sunny says he is not satoshi. So if he is satoshi then he is a liar. You don’t want a liar as a lead developer do you?

[–]patmacs 5
If you asked bruce wayne if he was batman, I’m sure he’d say no. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t want him protecting gotham.

[–]CryptoChief 2
It depends i guess. If he think he’s keeping himself safe by lie about his identity then i’m fine with him being the lead developer. But who knows.

[–]JonnyLatte 3
I really doubt its satoshi. I would expect that we would already have cold-lock if that was the case.

[–]cybnate 2
A quick analyses of his posts across a number of forums and github contributions and timezones learns that it’s likely that there is more than one person behind this Alias. Or it is a person which travels often across timezones. Most likely area he lives, seems to be the Pacific or Eastern US. Is it important to know? Not really, as long as things are open source before being enforced on the network. Is he Satoshi, maybe? Just my thoughts. Edit: Just noticed that this thread is old, sorry for reviving it

[–]puck2 2
Maybe.

[–]Sentinelrv 1
Something I just noticed is that Satoshi can’t be referring to Proof-of-Stake when he says “more complex ideas”. He posted that in December 2010 when the concept of Proof-of-Stake wasn’t posted until July 2011. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27787.0 Peercoin’s design didn’t start until October 2011. This doesn’t rule out the possibility though, as Satoshi could have just been searching for better solutions without knowing what they were yet. Ok, that’s enough conspiracy theories for one night.

[–]wantrepreneur 1
would make sense that satoshi would move onto PoS

[–]OrderAmongChaos 1
Why does it matter? Peercoin and Primecoin are what they are. They won’t magically change whether Sunny is Satoshi or literally Adolf Hitler.

[–]romerun -2
It’s more likely that satoshi is one of ripple founders as ripple was announce the day BTC price crashed if I have it right

[–]Mtinie 5
So Satoshi releases an open-source project that could potentially be one of the greatest innovations in economics, and his follow-up is a closed-source, pre-mined, completely opaque currency? I’m very skeptical of that scenario.

[–]onthefrynge 1
PPC is open source and not pre-mined http://peercoinmyths.com/

[–]Mtinie 1
Correct. I was addressing the speculation that Satoshi, as a follow-up to Bitcoin, went on to create Ripple (a closed-source, pre-mined currency). :slight_smile:

[–]onthefrynge 1
oh whoops…I totally missed romerun’s comment. sorry!

[–]igl00FTW -3
i d rather think maker of LTC is Satoshi.
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  1. Why was the peercoin.net registered with address in Beijing,China in first time? and the given fixed line company number I had called, it is ture!

  2. Why was the logo of peercoin.net contained a Chinese child style portrayal in early stage?

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[quote=“wolfcrafts, post:2, topic:3438”]1. Why was the peercon.com/net registered with address in Beijing,China in first time?

  1. Why was the logo of peercoin.net contained a Chinese child style portrayal in early stage?[/quote]

Why SK favorite food is chinese diet?
Because SK is Chinese. That’s all. lol

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Peercoin.net was registered by somebody else. ppcoin.org was the original domain. I don’t know if Sunny King registered it or not though. You’d have to check the original BitcoinTalk announcement thread.

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  1. Why was the peercoin.net registered with address in Beijing,China in first time?

Addition: It had shown the exact address with building No. in Benjing, China, and the given fixed line company number I had called at that time, it is ture(reachable, without answer at that time because that time was early morning in Benjing time zone)! about end of 2014, the registration information had been changed and the domain name continues…

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Peercoin.net was registered by davidbarker0@gmail.com which links more domain names:

  1. 456casino.com
  2. 456group.com
  3. blocklocker.com
  4. ppcoin.co
  5. peercoin.net
  6. peercoin.co
  7. 456mining.com

Following domain names were registered by Sunny King(p2pcoin@gmail.com)

  1. ppcoin.com 2013-10-08 Sunny King * redirect to peercoin.net
  2. primecoin.net 2013-03-10 Sunny King
  3. primecoin.info2013-03-10 Sunny King
  4. primecoin.org 2013-03-10 Sunny King
  5. ppcoin.org 2011-10-27 Sunny King * redirect to peercoin.net
  6. ppcoin.info 2011-10-26 Sunny King * redirect to peercoin.net
  7. ppcoin.net 2011-10-26 Sunny King
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As I said above, ppcoin.org was the original domain name registered by Sunny King. We then changed names to Peercoin and the member nox- registered the domain name for us as you can see here…

https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=565.msg4778#msg4778

davidbarker0@gmail.com is the same email nox- has listed on his profile. It’s not Sunny.

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ppcoin.com [2011-11-25] [p2pcoin@gmail.com] [SunnyKing] [+86. 1069349000], old registration information:
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Sunny King
Registrant Organization: PPCoin Foundation
Registrant Street: 15 Yingfengliuli, Yanshan （北京市房山区燕山迎风街15号）
Registrant City: Beijing
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:
Registrant Country: CN
Registrant Phone: +86.1069349000
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: Email
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Sunny King
Admin Organization: PPCoin Foundation
Admin Street: 15 Yingfengliuli, Yanshan
Admin City: Beijing

New Updated Date: 25-nov-2014
Creation Date: 25-nov-2011
Expiration Date: 25-nov-201

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[quote=“wolfcrafts, post:8, topic:3438”]ppcoin.com [2011-11-25] [p2pcoin@gmail.com] [SunnyKing] [+86. 1069349000], old registration information:
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Sunny King
Registrant Organization: PPCoin Foundation
Registrant Street: 15 Yingfengliuli, Yanshan （北京市房山区燕山迎风街15号）
Registrant City: Beijing
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:
Registrant Country: CN
Registrant Phone: +86.1069349000
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: Email
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Sunny King
Admin Organization: PPCoin Foundation
Admin Street: 15 Yingfengliuli, Yanshan
Admin City: Beijing

New Updated Date: 25-nov-2014
Creation Date: 25-nov-2011
Expiration Date: 25-nov-201[/quote]

Sunny King may be a chinese or a foreigner in china. Anyway, plz protect his private.

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it was a domain registration professional who did the registration, i guess.

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Peercoin： Registrant Organization: PPCoin Foundation

Here we can get some information about Peercoin in P2P foundation website:
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peercoin-crypto-with-price-stability/2013/12/05
Quote:
"PPCoin: Peer-to-Peer Crypto-Currency with Proof-of-Stake

I would say that with Peercoin, we have a possible successor to Bitcoin.

Not to say that Bitcoin’s success will be cut short by Peercoin. Bitcoin will always appeal to the investors among us. Peercoin, on the other hand, is set to do in commerce what Bitcoin is doing in investment. It will allow payments instantly between any two parties that are connected to the internet, and it will do so in a relatively stable environment.

Peercoin is a currency that can be used to pay things in relative safety and anonymity, as we are used to from Bitcoin. But it is also a currency that is not having to satisfy investors by getting worth more and more. So it isn’t a currency that you would necessarily put your savings into, but it is – in prospective – a functional currency that can be used in a simple way and all over the world."

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Are you guys serious about this? There are a couple of places where SK leaked his real name. There is no need to disclose it publicly here… :-/

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Yes, I am serious.

  1. I am fans of Sunny King, definitely I am curious to know who they are.
    All the informations what I can get is just coming from internet, openning information and I got it without any illegal way, anyone like me spent lots of time can get it. Still I think I just get very few information of Sunny King and whether those informations are validate or not. If it offend the concerned person, I will delete it.

  2. I am loser in PPC.
    Most of my Peercoins were brought @ $5 with my most saving, and since touch PPC, I can’t concentrate my mind in my job, also lost my job in 6 months ago, now I get finacial problem also.

I just want to get more truth of any information of PPC, anyone like me stepping out like this way would lose mind and do the same simple thing. If you know about some valuable information to share with me I would appreciate, also i will keep it secret if necessary.

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Yes, I am serious.

  1. I am fans of Sunny King, definitely I am curious to know who they are.
    All the informations what I can get is just coming from internet, openning information and I got it without any illegal way, anyone like me spent lots of time can get it. Still I think I just get very few information of Sunny King and whether those informations are validate or not. If it offend the concerned person, I will delete it.

  2. I am loser in PPC.
    Most of my Peercoins were brought @ $5 with my most saving, and since touch PPC, I can’t concentrate my mind in my job, also lost my job in 6 months ago, now I get finacial problem also.

I just want to get more truth of any information of PPC, anyone like me stepping out like this way would lose mind and do the same simple thing. If you know about some valuable information to share with me I would appreciate, also i will keep it secret if necessary.[/quote]

wolfcrafts, I began to buy XPM from late 2013, also a XPM loser. This is a very risky market, SK told us “invest what you can afford to lose”. Anytime keep enough FIAT in your hands. Anything can happen here, X10 or X 0.1 whatever.

SK may be in trouble if his/her real ID revealed, becomes a target of government or criminal groups is not fun at all. Just hold on, you are not the only temporary loser. :slight_smile:

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As far as I know this is not true.

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Out of curiosity, how much would someone be ready to pay to protect or reveal SK’s personal info (such as name, personal email, job and location) + proof?

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2.6 Gorillion Dollars. Exactly.

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As far as I can see as admin on this forum sunny king is and has always been very careful. Even if someone managed to hack the server all they could gather on him is tor exit node ips and a gmail account that is used on the master github repo. For me sunnyking is like satoshi in that if they find one via the internet they will find the other, I guess as sunnyking is active account makes him open to someone “catching them in the act of being sunnyking” by seeing them at a computer with sunnyking accounts open etc.

Hey wait so peercoins developer architect is still active, giving weekly updates, having peercoin meetings, interviews and developing, as opposed to satoshi who has been silent on bitcoin for some time now?? Has bitcoin not taken the path that satoshi had in mind?? Mining, development, distribution, use, etc?? I praise sunnyking for his active involvement and belief in the project that he helped create. Stay safe and have fun :slight_smile:

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IF I knew who he was, I would protect his identity. I would tell him/her/them how I was able to backtrack the identity, to fix that loophole from future exploits.